RE: Why Bush Should Be Impeached, #84
[email protected] Wed, 10 Jul 2002 10:54:31 -0400
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Really just more info. His previous actions - as you said - are arguably, not conclusively, undermining his office. But one could say that about most politicians. It'd be, IMHO, quite a stretch to impeach him on that argument. -Jack -----Original Message----- From: bparsia [mailto:bparsia-vEoVa6Jh+/J4piUD7e9S/[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 9:48 AM To: bonobos Cc: bparsia Subject: RE: [Bonobos] Why Bush Should Be Impeached, #84 On Wed, 10 Jul 2002 [email protected] wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/wa > tergatedoc_9.htm Er...is this a rebuttal of the Kendall/Mike takes in your mind? Or just further info? All of it seemed consistent with impeachment motivated by conduct or events occuring before office holding. "The emphasis has been on the significant effects of the conduct-- undermining the integrity of office, disregard of constitutional duties and oath of office, arrogation of power, abuse of the governmental process, adverse impact on the system of government." While focusing on in office conduct, espeically the last bit seems consistent with being modivated by prior conduct, if the effects are current. Arguably, Bush's general past conduct with regard to business crime, given the current series of scandals and the way his polticial actions are linked in, motivate serious accusation of undermining the integrity of office and adverse impact on the system of government. Arguably, not conclusively, of course. Impeaching him would just be the first step, after all. Impeachment, in general, is heavily political, rather than narrowly legal. I write this as someone who was *distinctly* uncomforatable, nay, strongly against the Starr stuff and the Clinton impeachment, at least the grounds and way it was carried out. But I tend to fault it as a supremely stupid political tactic in that context, rather than inherently "illegit". Well, stupid, damaging, destructive, ugly, but not formally or informally forbidden by "the rules". I kinda wish the democrats had the votes and guts to impeach Bush just as a way to slap the repugs a bit. The Republicans are just *so much* better at using these procedures for their infighting. Well, rather so much more willing. They tend to backfire (e.g., the shutting down of gov't, the impeachment, etc.) Cheers, Bijan. _______________________________________________ Bonobos maillist - Bonobos-4GNy1lrxftmrG/[email protected] http://monkeyfist.com/mailman/listinfo/bonobos --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 7/1/2002 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 7/1/2002