Re: [Redbadbear] Re: Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self defense) (covert harassment)
"Hunter Gray" <[email protected]>
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From an RBB discussion:
No, Blue, I don't think the attempted break-in "visit" the other night was a witch of any kind. I certainly don't discount the nefarious influences of "bad medicine" in some other situations. (See below.) It may have stemmed from motives related to simple larceny -- perhaps the feeling that we in this house had left it for a weekend of cool climes in nearby Jackson, Wyoming. It's been extremely hot here. Lots of people from Pocatello are spending time in that cooler Wyoming setting.
On the other hand, however, it may be related to the previous strange doings around our home at night which have recently picked up. For example, our garbage was obviously "searched" about three weeks ago. That happened back in the early days after we arrived here -- in the context of many other hostile things. Those doings, and perhaps -- perhaps -- the very early morning "visit" attempting to get into our home, could stem from local "Homeland Security" task force types who have covertly harassed us for years beginning with Bill Clinton's task forces which were formed in the latter '90s, apparently dissolved by Bush briefly, then reinstituted by Bush, and then continued by Obama. This would relate, obviously, to the special mail cover that the substitute mailperson inadvertently "blew" some weeks ago.
Or racists could well be involved -- perhaps, and this is purely speculative, even an overlap with some of the local Homeland Security types. We've certainly encountered racist stuff in these parts -- for years.
Almost all of our neighbors are very friendly.
In any event, my loaded revolver sits by me and my good old easy chair. Josie and "the Babies" are coming for breakfast, so I'll retire my firearm to my room during their visit. Those very good little folks would love to get their hands on that. I should add that, as a matter of many decades long practice, I always keep my firearms in safe places, usually well separated from my ammunition. Any loaded rifles are out of sight and my revolver is accessible only to adults in the house. Gun safety is very high on our priorities.
I have a kind of log of much of what's happened here over the years. Much of the early stuff is on a presently non-active two web page set in our site. It all became very full and I retired it, starting a new page, "Duel in the Shadows." But I will likely bring forth all of our "harassment links' in due course for any interested people.
If you're an effective social justice organizer, these sorts of things, cliché that it is, go "with the turf." They've happened to us at virtually every location in which we have lived and worked. But we always survive and keep going.
"When you fish for trout, expect to be bitten by mosquitoes."
Were that it all was a witch. A good, well trained Native medicine man could handle that nicely -- and very effectively.
Fight on!
Solidarity, Hunter Bear
HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq /
St. Francis Abenaki / St. Regis Mohawk
Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO
www.hunterbear.org
(much social justice material)
See the new expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"
JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new substantial
introduction by me. This book is a full, very detailed
discussion of the rise and development of the Jackson
Movement of 1962-63 -- external life and internal dynamics.
And this book is also an organizer's how-to manual.
http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
And see the related http://crmvet.org/comm/hunter1.htm
("Militant and Radical Organizer": -- and also "Fifty Years:
Remembering Medgar Evers")
http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/3876
See the Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:
http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm
(Many photos.)
Our very large page on Community Organizing:
http://hunterbear.org/my_combined_community_organizing.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: montereypinegreen
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 9:28 PM
Subject: [Redbadbear] Re: Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self defense)
Hunter,
Do you think what visited you this time might have been a "bad witch"?
Maybe you need one of those Navajo medicine men to exorcise the evil beings from your house.
Best,
Blue
--- In [email protected], "Hunter Gray" <hunterbadbear@...> wrote:
>
> No "good witches" in Navajoland. Lots of very good and well-trained medicine men, however -- and a myriad of very fine Navajo people (and some others as well.)
>
> From my two web-page piece, "Navajo Witchcraft and the Skin Walkers."
>
> Navajo medicine men are religious leaders and healers [these dimensions as
> inextricably bound together in the Navajo view -- and that of other
> Natives -- as a myriad of copper wires fused forever by super-intense fire.
> Medicine men train rigorously for many, many years -- often as many as
> seventeen -- before they're considered full-fledged practitioners in the
> context of the very rich traditional Dine' culture and its myriad of
> extraordinarily complex rituals that reach across the Four Directions to the
> very corners of the Creation.
>
> Navajo medicine men are extremely effective. Anyone who has lived for any
> period of time at all in and around the Navajo country is very well aware
> of this.
>
> United States Indian Health Service [PHS] now works closely, frequently
> side-by-side with the medicine men. The results are very good.
>
> And then there is the other side: Witchery Way. Not a great deal is known,
> intricately, by most people about the very shadowy and dangerous world of
> Navajo witchcraft -- "bad medicine", so to speak.
>
> But no one who has lived extensively in the Navajo country would ever make
> light of this sinister situation. It's taken very seriously. Witches
> practice their evil for purely mercenary purposes. Few Navajo would ever
> have anything to do with them, even remotely -- but there are always a few
> who do.
>
> Witches train extensively -- in their own very isolated and secure settings.
> By Navajo traditional law, a known witch, one who has thus forfeited its
> status as human, can be killed and this certainly applies to a kind of
> witch much involved in these endeavours: the Skinwalkers. These are
> obviously profoundly deviant Navajo who travel at night for nefarious
> purposes and who are believed to have the ability to turn themselves into
> various animals. They certainly are garbed in the skins of respective
> animals.
>
> These -- Witches and the closely related Skinwalkers -- are not the sorts of
> things about which one should talk much at all.
>
> The Harvard anthropologist, Clyde Kluckhohn, did a book, Navaho Witchcraft
> [Boston: Beacon Press, 1944.] An excellent person, he wisely recognized
> his own limitations and those of his book.
>
> I know a few things, at least. And here is a short, personal anecdote:
>
> When we lived and worked at very remote Navajo Community College [now Dine' College], seven thousand feet above sea level and almost right under the
> much, much higher Lukachukai Mountains and just to the north of historic
> Canyon de Chelly, our little house was on the far outer edge of the small
> community of Tsaile [Say-Lee.] We were 95 miles from Gallup, New Mexico
> [where my youngest daughter was born in late '79] and 125 miles by road from Farmington. Our area was split by the Arizona / New Mexico border which means virtually nothing on the Navajo reservation. My Chev pickup had New Mexico plates and I had an Arizona driver's license from Chinle [Chin-Lee], the small Navajo town with a few BIA offices and a tribal police station 35 miles to the south. [Our good friend, Easy, now of Spokane, who posts regularly on our RedBadBear list, knows all about this setting. He was there at the college, then, a top-flight computer expert for NCC, and
> that's where we first met and became firm friends.]
>
> Skinwalkers and witches in general are a concern in this setting -- as they
> are everywhere in the Navajo country.
>
> It was a July night, 1980, with the brightest high-altitude day-light Moon
> one could ever imagine. I awoke suddenly at 2 a.m. in our rather isolated
> house -- roughly the dimensional parameters of a traditional Navajo hogan,
> but much larger -- and, through our bedroom window, I saw figures circling.
>
> And I knew immediately.
>
> Turning on the lights, I yelled and our house and its people and animals
> came alive wildly. Our three dogs jumped from the couch, barking. One,
> Ruggie, was a wonderful little terrier and the other her mother, Wendy. The
> third was the very formidable looking -- but eminently gentle -- Good:
> half-coyote and half German shepherd. Clad only in my underclothes and with
> my always loaded Marlin .444 lever action, I went out the front door into
> the moonlight. There was movement -- revealing movement -- just inside the
> ring of cedar trees around one side of our little house. I held the rifle
> high, the dogs now barking very wildly.
>
> Then the shadowy but revealing motion just inside the cedars was gone.
>
> They were gone.
>
>
>
> HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq /
> St. Francis Abenaki / St. Regis Mohawk
> Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO
> www.hunterbear.org
> (much social justice material)
>
> See the new expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"
> JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new substantial
> introduction by me. This book is a full, very detailed
> discussion of the rise and development of the Jackson
> Movement of 1962-63 -- external life and internal dynamics.
> And this book is also an organizer's how-to manual.
> http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
>
> And see the related http://crmvet.org/comm/hunter1.htm
> ("Militant and Radical Organizer": -- and also "Fifty Years:
> Remembering Medgar Evers")
> http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/3876
>
> See the Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:
> http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm
> (Many photos.)
>
> Our very large page on Community Organizing:
> http://hunterbear.org/my_combined_community_organizing.htm
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: montereypinegreen
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:49 AM
> Subject: [Redbadbear] Re: Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self defense)
>
>
>
> "May the Force be with you," then. Are there good witches in Navajo country?
>
> --- In [email protected], "Hunter Gray" <hunterbadbear@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Blue. We are very comfortable seeking assistance from several "things unseen."
> >
> > All best, H
> >
> > HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq /
> > St. Francis Abenaki / St. Regis Mohawk
> > Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO
> > www.hunterbear.org
> > (much social justice material)
> >
> > See the new expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"
> > JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new substantial
> > introduction by me. This book is a full, very detailed
> > discussion of the rise and development of the Jackson
> > Movement of 1962-63 -- external life and internal dynamics.
> > And this book is also an organizer's how-to manual.
> > http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
> >
> > And see the related http://crmvet.org/comm/hunter1.htm
> > ("Militant and Radical Organizer": -- and also "Fifty Years:
> > Remembering Medgar Evers")
> > http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/3876
> >
> > See the Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:
> > http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm
> > (Many photos.)
> >
> > Our very large page on Community Organizing:
> > http://hunterbear.org/my_combined_community_organizing.htm
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: montereypinegreen
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 2:04 PM
> > Subject: [Redbadbear] Re: Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self defense)
> >
> >
> >
> > Prayers and best wishes, Hunter. Please stay safe. Do you feel comfortable invoking the help of the spiritual world?
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Hunter Gray" <hunterbadbear@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks, Sam. Good thoughts like that carry good weight, metaphysically.
> > >
> > > All best, H
> > > HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq /
> > > St. Francis Abenaki / St. Regis Mohawk
> > > Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO
> > > www.hunterbear.org
> > > (much social justice material)
> > >
> > > See the new expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"
> > > JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new substantial
> > > introduction by me. This book is a full, very detailed
> > > discussion of the rise and development of the Jackson
> > > Movement of 1962-63 -- external life and internal dynamics.
> > > And this book is also an organizer's how-to manual.
> > > http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
> > >
> > > And see the related http://crmvet.org/comm/hunter1.htm
> > > ("Militant and Radical Organizer": -- and also "Fifty Years:
> > > Remembering Medgar Evers")
> > > http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/3876
> > >
> > > See the Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:
> > > http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm
> > > (Many photos.)
> > >
> > > Our very large page on Community Organizing:
> > > http://hunterbear.org/my_combined_community_organizing.htm
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: sam4wp@
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 10:45 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Redbadbear] Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self defense)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I just want Hunter to be the one who is standing at the end...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: cnc <cnc@>
> > > To: Redbadbear <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Sat, Jul 20, 2013 12:41 pm
> > > Subject: Re: [Redbadbear] Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self defense)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gimme Doc Holiday/whatshisname.>
> > >
> > > Let;s substitute Shane/Alan Ladd for John Wayne -- or even the
> > > > black-hatted gunman, Wilson/Jack Palance, from Cheyenne.
> > > >
> > > > But I do get, and I do appreciate, your point. It would be
> > > > image-enhancing.
> > > >
> > > > Best, H
> > > >
> > > > HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq /
> > > > St. Francis Abenaki / St. Regis Mohawk
> > > > Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO
> > > > www.hunterbear.org
> > > > (much social justice material)
> > > >
> > > > See the new expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"
> > > > JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new substantial
> > > > introduction by me. This book is a full, very detailed
> > > > discussion of the rise and development of the Jackson
> > > > Movement of 1962-63 -- external life and internal dynamics.
> > > > And this book is also an organizer's how-to manual.
> > > > http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
> > > >
> > > > And see the related http://crmvet.org/comm/hunter1.htm
> > > > ("Militant and Radical Organizer": -- and also "Fifty Years:
> > > > Remembering Medgar Evers")
> > > > http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/3876
> > > >
> > > > See the Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:
> > > > http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm
> > > > (Many photos.)
> > > >
> > > > Our very large page on Community Organizing:
> > > > http://hunterbear.org/my_combined_community_organizing.htm
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: John Salter
> > > > To: Redbadbear
> > > > Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:14 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [Redbadbear] Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self
> > > > defense)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Well, that is cause for alarm. For someone to climb the great hill to
> > > > attempt a burglary shows some commitment. And foolishness, given so many
> > > > Idahoans are armed to the teeth. Nice use of restraint although part of
> > > > me would like to see you get into a grand battle like John Wayne in "The
> > > > Shootist."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > CC: [email protected]; [email protected];
> > > > [email protected]; bearwithoutborders@
> > > > From: hunterbadbear@
> > > > Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 03:08:19 -0600
> > > > Subject: [Redbadbear] Early morn thoughts from our Idaho hill (self
> > > > defense)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First off, at about 1:25 am this morning, someone attempted to break
> > > > into our home. From time to time, and certainly recently, there have
> > > > been strange human doings around our place at night. Hence, some weeks
> > > > ago I posted an NRA Life Member decal on the windows at both our front
> > > > and back doors. (We had to do this for several years after we came here
> > > > in '97.) We also have something -- an almost antique big cowbell --
> > > > tied to the inside front door knob. Anyone who messes with that door,
> > > > generates a loud noise. This occurred this morning. I was sitting in a
> > > > darkened living room drinking coffee and only a dim kitchen light was
> > > > on. Our front door is between our upper and down levels. I went down
> > > > to the front door immediately and then outside. Whoever was gone. We
> > > > have floodlights but a knowledgeable person can avoid those by moving
> > > > very close to the house.
> > > >
> > > > We have a few loaded firearms located around the house. But I'm not
> > > > interested in shooting someone. As I mentioned on Redbadbear recently,
> > > > our first line of defense is prevention. If someone of malice entered
> > > > our home, I'd hold the person at gunpoint and force them out and away.
> > > > It's possible we might call the police under certain circumstances but
> > > > we are not at all inclined to do that.
> > > >
> > > > If the person were inside our home and posed a genuinely -- and I
> > > > underscore genuinely -- lethal threat to myself and our family, I would
> > > > shoot the person. I wouldn't lose any sleep under those circumstances.
> > > >
> > > > Self-defense is an inherent, natural right -- not just restricted to our
> > > > human species. But I don't need a "Stand Your Ground Law." Actually I
> > > > don't think Idaho has that in the formal and precise sense but it
> > > > certainly does recognize, with some qualifications, the right to self
> > > > defense.
> > > >
> > > > I do feel that, if those "Stand" laws are going to maintained by some
> > > > states, narrowing their scope and setting explicit limits would
> > > > obviously make very good sense.
> > > >
> > > > Hunter Bear
> > > >
> > > > HUNTER GRAY [HUNTER BEAR/JOHN R SALTER JR] Mi'kmaq /
> > > > St. Francis Abenaki / St. Regis Mohawk
> > > > Member, National Writers Union AFL-CIO
> > > > www.hunterbear.org
> > > > (much social justice material)
> > > >
> > > > See the new expanded/updated "Organizer's Book,"
> > > > JACKSON MISSISSIPPI -- with a new substantial
> > > > introduction by me. This book is a full, very detailed
> > > > discussion of the rise and development of the Jackson
> > > > Movement of 1962-63 -- external life and internal dynamics.
> > > > And this book is also an organizer's how-to manual.
> > > > http://hunterbear.org/jackson.htm
> > > >
> > > > And see the related http://crmvet.org/comm/hunter1.htm
> > > > ("Militant and Radical Organizer": -- and also "Fifty Years:
> > > > Remembering Medgar Evers")
> > > > http://www.solidarity-us.org/site/node/3876
> > > >
> > > > See the Stormy Adoption of an Indian Child [My Father]:
> > > > http://hunterbear.org/James%20and%20Salter%20and%20Dad.htm
> > > > (Many photos.)
> > > >
> > > > Our very large page on Community Organizing:
> > > > http://hunterbear.org/my_combined_community_organizing.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>