Re: Ukraine's drone strikes no comfort to its war weary populace
"Mike Sola via groups.io" <[email protected]> Sat, 25 Jul 2026 16:30:06 -0400
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--------------8CTr82pHC9voqt3LLtx0EtuX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------EWTdlwN40RLB4kw7Q4OaCK74" --------------EWTdlwN40RLB4kw7Q4OaCK74 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit What is the source for the median age of Ukrainian soldiers as 45? Thanks. “In light of the unprecedented number of Palestinian victims in the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza; the shocking declarations of Israeli government and military officials and parliament members; the use of food, water, and medicines as a tool of war to star On 7/25/2026 12:27 PM, Marv Gandall via groups.io wrote: > Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukraine’s NATO sponsors are hailing it’s development of advanced drone > technology and ability to hit targets deep inside Russia as a turning point in the stalemated > war. Lily Lynch writes in the New Left Review’s Sidecar blog that “they are depicting Russia – > and only Russia – as the country facing a dire political and economic crisis.” The narrative is > designed to bolster public support for the military buildup in the West and its continued flow of > arms and fiscal support to underwrite the Ukrainian war effort. > > But "the image of a Ukraine filled with patriotic liberals eager to fight a high-tech war until > total Russian collapse is a fiction”, she says. "According to a recent Gallup poll (one that was > largely buried in the Western press),Ukrainians are even less enthusiastic about fighting this war > than Russians are. Less than one in four adults (24 per cent) say Ukraine should keep fighting > until it wins the war, while 66 per cent say Ukraine should seek to negotiate an end to the war as > soon as possible." > > Part of the reason for mass disillusionment is what Lynch describes as “the brutal practice of > ‘busification’ – whereby military age men are snatched off the street which continues to inspire > loathing.” The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is now 45 as many draft age men have fled > abroad or are otherwise trying to find ways to avoid conscription. Ukraine’s impressive drone > production can’t compensate for its demographic deficit. > > “The majority of both Russians and Ukrainians want negotiations to end the war now” she > concludes." Only a minority want to continue fighting until their side’s most maximalist aims are > met. Absent the propaganda of a youth-driven drone tech revolution in war, Ukraine looks in a > remarkably similar situation to Russia: two countries hurtling toward demographic oblivion, in a > conflict directed by a profiteering political elite and fought in part by the unwilling, the > coerced, the foreign and the old.” > -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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charset=UTF-8"> <div>Volodymyr Zelensky and Ukraine’s NATO sponsors are hailing it’s development of advanced drone technology and ability to hit targets deep inside Russia as a turning point in the stalemated war. Lily Lynch writes in the New Left Review’s Sidecar blog that “they are depicting Russia – and only Russia – as the country facing a dire political and economic crisis.” The narrative is designed to bolster public support for the military buildup in the West and its continued flow of arms and fiscal support to underwrite the Ukrainian war effort. <br> <br> But "the image of a Ukraine filled with patriotic liberals eager to fight a high-tech war until total Russian collapse is a fiction”, she says. "According to a recent Gallup poll (one that was largely buried in the Western press),Ukrainians are even less enthusiastic about fighting this war than Russians are. Less than one in four adults (24 per cent) say Ukraine should keep fighting until it wins the war, while 66 per cent say Ukraine should seek to negotiate an end to the war as soon as possible."<br> <br> Part of the reason for mass disillusionment is what Lynch describes as “the brutal practice of ‘busification’ – whereby military age men are snatched off the street which continues to inspire loathing.” The average age of a Ukrainian soldier is now 45 as many draft age men have fled abroad or are otherwise trying to find ways to avoid conscription. Ukraine’s impressive drone production can’t compensate for its demographic deficit.<br> <br> “The majority of both Russians and Ukrainians want negotiations to end the war now” she concludes." Only a minority want to continue fighting until their side’s most maximalist aims are met. Absent the propaganda of a youth-driven drone tech revolution in war, Ukraine looks in a remarkably similar situation to Russia: two countries hurtling toward demographic oblivion, in a conflict directed by a profiteering political elite and fought in part by the unwilling, the coerced, the foreign and the old.” </div> </blockquote> <br> <div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br /><table style="border-top: 1px solid #D3D4DE;"><tr><td style="width: 55px; padding-top: 13px;"><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank"><img src="https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif" alt="" width="46" height="29" style="width: 46px; height: 29px;"/></a></td><td style="width: 470px; padding-top: 12px; color: #41424e; font-size: 13px; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; line-height: 18px;">Virus-free.<a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient" target="_blank" style="color: #4453ea;">www.avast. com</a></td></tr></table><a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"> </a></div></body> </html> <div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> You receive all messages sent to this group. <p> <a target="_blank" href="https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42638">View/Reply Online (#42638)</a> | <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Ukraine%27s%20drone%20strikes%20no%20comfort%20to%20its%20war%20weary%20populace">Reply to Group</a> | <a target="_blank" href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Private:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Ukraine%27s%20drone%20strikes%20no%20comfort%20to%20its%20war%20weary%20populace">Reply to Sender</a> | <a target="_blank" href="https://groups.io/mt/120442198/6024700">Mute This Topic</a> | <a href="https://groups.io/g/marxmail/post">New Topic</a> <br> <hr style="width:25%;margin-right:100%">POSTING RULES & NOTES<br /> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br /> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br /> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.<br /> #4 Do not exceed five posts a day.<hr style="width:25%;margin-right:100%"> <a href="https://groups.io/g/marxmail/editsub/6024700">Your Subscription</a> | <a href="mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href="https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/xyzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width="1" style="color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --------------EWTdlwN40RLB4kw7Q4OaCK74-- --------------8CTr82pHC9voqt3LLtx0EtuX Content-Type: text/vcard; charset=UTF-8; name="mikesola.vcf" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="mikesola.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 bnVsbA== --------------8CTr82pHC9voqt3LLtx0EtuX--