Re: After "Political Terrorism" Summit, U.S. Names 43 Americans + Groups
"Marv Gandall via groups.io" <[email protected]> Sat, 25 Jul 2026 18:33:16 -0700
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--StYYd6IID9u6YsDKItiW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 01:59 PM, David Walters wrote: >=20 > However, "wanting negotiations" does not mean capitulation. Majorities > consistently reject formal territorial concessions or peace terms dictate= d > by Moscow that compromise the nation's sovereignty or involve recognizing > Russian gains. I think you meant to direct this to the thread I started on the NLR Sidecar= article. My impression is that the Ukrainian masses would accept an end to the blood= shed and destruction of their economic infrastructure if the US and NATO ga= ve the country firm security guarantees and a reconstruction fund is establ= ished even if the territorial issues, ie. the status of the Donbas and Crim= ea is left to unspecified further talks and a possible referendum. That's a= t least the framework that some have suggested for an armistice short of a = peace agreement at any rate. Neither the Russian nor Ukraine/NATO camp seem= ready to abandon their maximum war aims at this stage. The Europeans in pa= rticular are able to use the war as justification for their military Keynes= ianism to prop up their flagging economies. -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#42648): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42648 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/120380406/6024700 -=3D-=3D- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=3D-=3D- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971= /xyzzy [[email protected]] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --StYYd6IID9u6YsDKItiW Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div>On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 01:59 PM, David Walters wrote:</div> <div> <blockquote>However, "wanting negotiations" does not mean capitulation. Maj= orities consistently reject formal territorial concessions or peace terms d= ictated by Moscow that compromise the nation's sovereignty or involve recog= nizing Russian gains.</blockquote> I think you meant to direct this to the thread I started on the NLR Sidecar= article. </div> <div> </div> <div>My impression is that the Ukrainian masses would accept an end to the = bloodshed and destruction of their economic infrastructure if the US and NA= TO gave the country firm security guarantees and a reconstruction fund is e= stablished even if the territorial issues, ie. the status of the Donbas and= Crimea is left to unspecified further talks and a possible referendum. Tha= t's at least the framework that some have suggested for an armistice short = of a peace agreement at any rate. Neither the Russian nor Ukraine/NATO camp= seem ready to abandon their maximum war aims at this stage. The Europeans = in particular are able to use the war as justification for their military K= eynesianism to prop up their flagging economies.</div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> =20 You receive all messages sent to this group. =20 =20 <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42648">Vi= ew/Reply Online (#42648)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe:%20Re= %3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20After%20%22Political%20Terrorism%22%20Summit%2C%20U.= S.%20Names%2043%20Americans%20%2B%20Groups">Reply to Group</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DPri= vate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20After%20%22Political%20Terrorism%22%= 20Summit%2C%20U.S.%20Names%2043%20Americans%20%2B%20Groups">Reply to Sender= </a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/120380406/6024700">Mute= This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/post">New Topic</a> <br> <hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%">POSTING RULES & NOTES<br /> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br /> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br /> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.<br /> #4 Do not exceed five posts a day.<hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%"= > <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/editsub/6024700">Your Subscription<= /a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/x= yzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --StYYd6IID9u6YsDKItiW--