Re: After "Political Terrorism" Summit, U.S. Names 43 Americans + Groups

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On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 01:59 PM, David Walters wrote:

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> However, "wanting negotiations" does not mean capitulation. Majorities
> consistently reject formal territorial concessions or peace terms dictate=
d
> by Moscow that compromise the nation's sovereignty or involve recognizing
> Russian gains.

I think you meant to direct this to the thread I started on the NLR Sidecar=
 article.

My impression is that the Ukrainian masses would accept an end to the blood=
shed and destruction of their economic infrastructure if the US and NATO ga=
ve the country firm security guarantees and a reconstruction fund is establ=
ished even if the territorial issues, ie. the status of the Donbas and Crim=
ea is left to unspecified further talks and a possible referendum. That's a=
t least the framework that some have suggested for an armistice short of a =
peace agreement at any rate. Neither the Russian nor Ukraine/NATO camp seem=
 ready to abandon their maximum war aims at this stage. The Europeans in pa=
rticular are able to use the war as justification for their military Keynes=
ianism to prop up their flagging economies.


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<div>On Sat, Jul 25, 2026 at 01:59 PM, David Walters wrote:</div>
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<blockquote>However, "wanting negotiations" does not mean capitulation. Maj=
orities consistently reject formal territorial concessions or peace terms d=
ictated by Moscow that compromise the nation's sovereignty or involve recog=
nizing Russian gains.</blockquote>
I think you meant to direct this to the thread I started on the NLR Sidecar=
 article.&nbsp;</div>
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<div>My impression is that the Ukrainian masses would accept an end to the =
bloodshed and destruction of their economic infrastructure if the US and NA=
TO gave the country firm security guarantees and a reconstruction fund is e=
stablished even if the territorial issues, ie. the status of the Donbas and=
 Crimea is left to unspecified further talks and a possible referendum. Tha=
t's at least the framework that some have suggested for an armistice short =
of a peace agreement at any rate. Neither the Russian nor Ukraine/NATO camp=
 seem ready to abandon their maximum war aims at this stage. The Europeans =
in particular are able to use the war as justification for their military K=
eynesianism to prop up their flagging economies.</div>


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