Re: [marxmail] Background to Trump’s return to neo-conservativism
"Anthony Teso via groups.io" <[email protected]> Tue, 28 Jul 2026 18:54:31 -0700
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--kswvGopasGtNW1ZDTaLM Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable John has the periodization right. PNAC's unipolar fantasy died once already= , against North Korea, and it's dying again against Iran. But calling this = a repetition of neo-conservative failure treats a state mechanism as a bad = idea some faction keeps recycling. Diplomacy worked. The JCPOA worked, on i= ts own terms, until Netanyahu and McCain torched it. So why does the U.S. s= tate keep reaching for war after the thing that worked better? Not ideology. Structure. Poulantzas: the state condenses a balance of class= forces, it isn't simply capital's transmission belt, and in a crisis that = condensation can swing toward the executive at the expense of whatever frac= tion was invested in the negotiated track. Weber: patrimonialism, power per= sonalized around loyalty to a man rather than routed through institutions. = Put them together and you get what I've been calling patrimonial Bonapartis= m. Not "rising dictatorial tendency," which is what John's conclusion gestu= res at and then drops. A mechanism. Trump's personal discretion overrode th= e diplomatic track and green-lit a war that Netanyahu was already in Washin= gton discussing in December, per Axios, before the Iranian protests that ar= e supposed to have triggered all this had even started. "Both sides are right and both are wrong" sounds dialectical. It's foreign-= policy realism wearing a dialectical coat. Neither war nor diplomacy secure= s the aims of U.S. imperialism, sure. But that's not the same question as w= hy the war fraction beat the diplomatic fraction this time. Diplomacy didn'= t fail on its own terms. The coalition that tried to institutionalize it lo= st. One place John is dead right, and it's the sentence I keep coming back to: = the thundering silence of the union leadership. That's not a footnote. That= 's the condition of possibility for Bonapartist discretion going unconteste= d at all. No organized proletarian pole, no friction on the executive. That= 's the thread worth pulling, not the neo-con genealogy, accurate as it is, = which still treats this as a family quarrel among strategists of empire -- Tony -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#42688): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42688 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/120484652/6024700 -=3D-=3D- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=3D-=3D- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971= /xyzzy [[email protected]] -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- --kswvGopasGtNW1ZDTaLM Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div> <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" dir=3D= "ltr">John has the periodization right. PNAC's unipolar fantasy died once a= lready, against North Korea, and it's dying again against Iran. But calling= this a repetition of neo-conservative failure treats a state mechanism as = a bad idea some faction keeps recycling. Diplomacy worked. The JCPOA worked= , on its own terms, until Netanyahu and McCain torched it. So why does the = U.S. state keep reaching for war after the thing that worked better?</p> <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" dir=3D= "ltr">Not ideology. Structure. Poulantzas: the state condenses a balance of= class forces, it isn't simply capital's transmission belt, and in a crisis= that condensation can swing toward the executive at the expense of whateve= r fraction was invested in the negotiated track. Weber: patrimonialism, pow= er personalized around loyalty to a man rather than routed through institut= ions. Put them together and you get what I've been calling patrimonial Bona= partism. Not "rising dictatorial tendency," which is what John's conclusion= gestures at and then drops. A mechanism. Trump's personal discretion overr= ode the diplomatic track and green-lit a war that Netanyahu was already in = Washington discussing in December, per Axios, before the Iranian protests t= hat are supposed to have triggered all this had even started.</p> <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" dir=3D= "ltr">"Both sides are right and both are wrong" sounds dialectical. It's fo= reign-policy realism wearing a dialectical coat. Neither war nor diplomacy = secures the aims of U.S. imperialism, sure. But that's not the same questio= n as why the war fraction beat the diplomatic fraction this time. Diplomacy= didn't fail on its own terms. The coalition that tried to institutionalize= it lost.</p> <p class=3D"font-claude-response-body break-words whitespace-normal" dir=3D= "ltr">One place John is dead right, and it's the sentence I keep coming bac= k to: the thundering silence of the union leadership. That's not a footnote= . That's the condition of possibility for Bonapartist discretion going unco= ntested at all. No organized proletarian pole, no friction on the executive= . That's the thread worth pulling, not the neo-con genealogy, accurate as i= t is, which still treats this as a family quarrel among strategists of empi= re</p> </div> <div>--</div> <div>Tony</div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> =20 You receive all messages sent to this group. =20 =20 <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42688">Vi= ew/Reply Online (#42688)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe:%20Re= %3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Background%20to%20Trump%E2%80%99s%20return%20to%20ne= o-conservativism">Reply to Group</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject= =3DPrivate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Background%20to%20Trump%E2%80%= 99s%20return%20to%20neo-conservativism">Reply to Sender</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/120484652/6024700">Mute= This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/post">New Topic</a> <br> <hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%">POSTING RULES & NOTES<br /> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br /> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br /> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.<br /> #4 Do not exceed five posts a day.<hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%"= > <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/editsub/6024700">Your Subscription<= /a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/x= yzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --kswvGopasGtNW1ZDTaLM--