Re: Trump organizing legal version of January 6th
"Marv Gandall via groups.io" <[email protected]> Mon, 03 Aug 2026 09:06:53 -0700
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--iDbrMtqMPfDVA09qB6w4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Tony.=C2=A0 Too bad we weren't sitting down over coffee where we co= uld discuss at greater length our differences and determine more precisely = whether they are nuances or represent two quite different views of how to f= ight the Trump administration. My impression is that they wouldn't much aff= ect practice, except insofar as you might rally opposition against Trump's = personal corruption while I would focus on the threat his administration po= sed to the historic hard-won democratic rights and social gains of the US's= diverse working class. As to Bonapartism as precursor to fascism, you draw a sharp contrast betwee= n Louis Napoleon's repressive measures and Nazi Germany.=C2=A0 I agree the = Nazis were a particularly vicious form of race-based fascism which should b= e distinguished from his regime. A more exact parallel would be the "milder= " outright fascist or conservative authoritarian regimes of Mussolini, Fran= co Salazar, Horthy etc. where the dictator had powers Trump *can only dream= of* - among other things, abolition of legislative and judicial oversight = and the rotating two party governing system; banning of independent trade u= nions, political parties, and media; imprisonment, exile, or worse of Commu= nist and other left-wing militants; and subordination of the bourgeoisie to= the dictates of state policy rather than market forces. Wouldn't you agree that others now have a pretty good idea of where each of= us stands? -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. 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My impression is that they wouldn't muc= h affect practice, except insofar as you might rally opposition against Tru= mp's personal corruption while I would focus on the threat his administrati= on posed to the historic hard-won democratic rights and social gains of the= US's diverse working class.</div> <div> </div> <div>As to Bonapartism as precursor to fascism, you draw a sharp contrast b= etween Louis Napoleon's repressive measures and Nazi Germany. I agree= the Nazis were a particularly vicious form of race-based fascism which sho= uld be distinguished from his regime. A more exact parallel would be the "m= ilder" outright fascist or conservative authoritarian regimes of Mussolini,= Franco Salazar, Horthy etc. where the dictator had powers Trump <em><stron= g>can only dream of</strong> </em>- among other things, abolition of legisl= ative and judicial oversight and the rotating two party governing system; b= anning of independent trade unions, political parties, and media; imprisonm= ent, exile, or worse of Communist and other left-wing militants; and subord= ination of the bourgeoisie to the dictates of state policy rather than mark= et forces.</div> <div> </div> <div>Wouldn't you agree that others now have a pretty good idea of where ea= ch of us stands?</div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> <hr> Groups.io Links:<p> =20 You receive all messages sent to this group. =20 =20 <p> <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/42759">Vi= ew/Reply Online (#42759)</a> | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe:%20Re= %3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Trump%20organizing%20legal%20version%20of%20January%= 206th">Reply to Group</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DPri= vate:%20Re:%20Re%3A%20%5Bmarxmail%5D%20Trump%20organizing%20legal%20version= %20of%20January%206th">Reply to Sender</a> =20 | <a target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://groups.io/mt/120549500/6024700">Mute= This Topic</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/post">New Topic</a> <br> <hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%">POSTING RULES & NOTES<br /> #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message.<br /> #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived.<br /> #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern.<br /> #4 Do not exceed five posts a day.<hr style=3D"width:25%;margin-right:100%"= > <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/editsub/6024700">Your Subscription<= /a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">Contact Group Owner</a> | <a href=3D"https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/10173629/6024700/1441833971/x= yzzy">Unsubscribe</a> [[email protected]]<br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;clear:both">_._,_._,_</div> --iDbrMtqMPfDVA09qB6w4--