Re: Regarding Louis Proyect

"John O'Brien via groups.io" <[email protected]>
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I was cautioned by this email moderator that -
mentioning Stalin wrongs - was unacceptable
since the Trotsky-Stalin History and Debate
Are Not Allowed.

So why is it when I posted anti-Stalin that was a violation
but we see Grover Furr spurious attacks to support Stalin - acceptable?

One can maybe find the actual answers to whom was on a
pro-worker revolutionary path -
and whom was not bt Stalin and Trotsky's orientation to defeat capital harm.

Seems the end of the Soviet Union - now over three decades ago -
seems enough time to allow us and the world left - to make proper
conclusions on what happened - and whom was responsible -
by their strategic decisions to advance a better world?

Will Stalin's School of Falsification be finally exposed
as the failures of other revolutions to bring needed workers to power
to create a better world and needed better humanity and society?

Can we move forward with better agreement with revealing and
sharing all the mistakes and errors - so we can proceed to set up
better models to a successful cooperative needed socialist world.




On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 3:44 PM Steven L. Robinson via groups.io <srobin21=
[email protected]> wrote:

> It's actually worse than that.  After all the old Bolsheviks had been
> removed from positions of authority, if not expelled, the CPSU held the so
> called "Congress of Victors" in which achievements of the early 1930s were
> celebrated.  The participants were members of Stalin's own victorious
> faction.  Ultimately the majority of those who attended that Congress were
> purged as well.
>
> SR
>
>
> > On 08/13/2026 1:49 PM PDT Mark Baugher <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
>
> >
> > This is the small-man theory of history. The focus is on failed
> individuals rather than social and historical processes. Looking at it
> historically, the process is this: All the living, old Bolsheviks (plus
> Trotsky) turned out to be spies and traitors during a decade of progress in
> the USSR, where they were celebrated as heroes and to which they all had
> devoted decades of their lives and suffered exile, imprisonment, and
> personal hardships. All of them, with the exception of one. And when that
> person died, the USSR suffered a collapse into capitalism.
> >
> > Assuming that implausible story is true, where were the workers through
> all of this? Who put them to sleep? What kind of system demobilized the
> working class that won the Russian Revolution. What happened to their
> organizations? To the soviets that they invented in 1905 and were supposed
> to get all the power in 1917.
> >
> > Please.
> >
> > Mark
> >
>
>
> 
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>


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