Re: [ox-en] Scarcity and limitations (was: Re: The nature of apple trees)

Michel Bauwens <[email protected]>
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I find it hard to read the email version of your table, if it is available
elsewhere?

but I'll check the link, perhaps it's there,

Michel

On Wed, May 6, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Diego Saravia <[email protected]>wrote:

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> > I would like you to consider the case of fair trade for example, when it
> > works as it is supposed to work. The organizing entity tries to eliminate
> > rent-extraction by middlemen, allowing it to pay a more dignified price
> to
> > the producer, and asks for a little extra from conscious consumers.
> >
> > This is a form of exchange which does not seek to maximalize 'the most
> > return'; similarly, let's take a look at what is commonly called social
> > entrepreneurship. The aim is to achieve a social goal, and the corporate
> > form is used to achieve that goal. It is not necessary to strive for
> > maximum
> > return since the goal is social, and profit just a means.
> >
> > So, we have exchange, but it works differently from classic capitalism.
> So
> > let's keep exchange separated from markets, and markets from capitalism.
> >
>
>
> I agree
>
> we can identify several human advancements and economic inventions over
> time,
> each one based in the previous one, but not imposed by it. We dont need the
> new one to have the step before.
>
> - work - production - creation      |     human being (or another working
> creature)
> --   exchange                            |     surpluss (human societies
> after hunters and gatherers)
> ---        markets                        |     points of exchange of
> several producers and consumers
> ----             money                    |     common agreed exchange good
>
> -----                 interest              |     capital: recognition of
> growth potencial of capital
> ------                    capitalism      |     invention of rent of
> capital
> as other way of distribution of
>                                                     earnings, end of direct
> coercion in work exchange, all exploitation
>                                                     troughout capital rent
> ---------                     free informational goods
>                                               |     end of copyright ,
> economic potencial of information not as an economic good,
>                                                     digital networks and
> free info flows, p2p info creation,
>                                                     subsidized creation -
> rent of knowledge as attentional power and lidership,
>                                                     explosive growth of
> knowledge societies
> -------------                 enviromental colapse of humankind, end of
> civilization
>                                               | no comment
>
>
> each step acelerated economic growth and eliminate a lot scarcity, and
> stablish a growth in energy consumption and info flows
>
>
> http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:jcTbSI6yvlcJ:salta.org.ar/wiki/bin/view/SoftwareLibre/InfoEvo+infoevo&hl=es&strip=1
>
>
> --
> Diego Saravia
> [email protected]
> NO FUNCIONA->dsa-AySywPH+/[email protected]
>
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