Re: Profit and Value, was: Re(2): [ox-en] extrinsic motivation = coercion

marc fawzi <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.politics.oekonux.english
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Patrick,

OK, I understand what you mean now.

Your initial response left out the details of your thinking.

But this creates inequality between initial owner-consumers and later
owner-consumers which is, imo, justified only until the investment of
the initial owner-consumers is paid back... no?

On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Patrick Anderson <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Diego Saravia <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> 2009/5/7 Patrick Anderson <[email protected]>
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>>> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 7:35 AM, marc fawzi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > If there is no profit margin,
>>>
>>>
>>> Please read what I have written more carefully.
>>>
>>>
>>> We *SHOULD* charge price above cost.  There *SHOULD* be a profit 'margin'.
>>
>>
>>
>> why?
>
>
> For growth.
>
> I don't see any other way to work our way out of the grip of the
> Capitalists except to buy it all back from them.
>
> So, for those of us willing invest early to start a business that
> treats profit as described, we will need to make initial investment
> for 'bootstrapping' - to get the organization formed.
>
> But we must ALSO collect price above cost for late-comers as THEIR
> investment, since how else will we buy the Almond trees and
> Grape-vines and Cattle needed to supply them with the food that THEY
> must consume?
>
> Assuming we can get this started, and it is operating as we see fit -
> for instance, supplying us with "at cost" organic whole milk under our
> absolute control - we can't use those exact same cattle for newcomers,
> for there is a limited supply - so we must fund the birth or purchase
> of MORE cattle.
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