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Hi Stefan, hi all

Thank you Franz, for your approach to defining social economy, social
businesses and solidarity economy.

Actually, as far as I got to know, in France no clear and/or unambigous
distinction between social and solidarity economy has been drawn.

Personally, I also think, that social economy has only a very limited potential
since most of the time, people understand former state-apparatuses in the
field of social welfare - no privatized (being non-profit or profit) - as "social
eonomy".

Social businesses are of course a neoliberal approach - however, I guess one
can cooperate with some of them in a limited way.

Solidarity economy on the other hand is of course the most promising
approach of all I know. However, I think, that it's potentials only come really
true, if it starts to produce commons.

A wonderful example of such a combination (of many other possible ones) is
Open Source Ecology (which you, Stefan, will know):

http://openfarmtech.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

regards, Andreas


> Hi Stefan,
>
> I forward your letter to Andreas Exner and others heavily involved in
> the Solidarity Economy.
>
> We founded a group SOLCOM - Solidarity and the Commons - to deal with
> exactly that subject.
>
> You give a lot of definitions on your wiki,
>
> http://en.wiki.oekonux.org/StefanMerten/SocialEconomyOrPeerProduction
>
> so we should read and
> comment that, and hopefully support you in the endavour to bring
> the role of the commons and peer production into the field.
>
> There are three principal concepts that play a role in this field.
> These concepts are complementing and competing at the same time:
>
> SOCIAL ECONOMY:  This refers to everything that adresses poverty and
> raises opportunity, many times its the term for the activities of NGOs
> performing activities of the social state and act as employers and
> service providers. Thats very much within the "state quota" of
> indirectly financed activities.
>
> SOCIAL BUSINESS: In sharp distinction this is the answer of the
> private sector, small or medium sized or large enterprises that try to
> address issues of poverty or meeting needs on a profit based base,
> with the caveat that most or all of the profit gets reinvested in the
> companies. Grameen Mohammed Yunus is now pushing that concept
>
> SOLIDARITY ECONOMY  This is the only transformative concept, it aims
> to establish productive and supportive activities between actors,
> especially in a region, that empower and enable as many players as
> possible to take over functions in an economic network of relations
> which could be monetary or nonmonetary.
>
> You should know that the people above are involved in the creation of
> free software tools to map solidarity economy - and these are just
> some of them.
>
> Franz
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> Hi list!
>
> I'm invited to the `10th RMLL`_ which is going to happen in Nantes.
> This is a five day conference which - AFAICS - takes place `every
> year`_ in a city in France. I know too little French to say much about
> this conference but it seems to be a - may be: the - big Free Software
> conference in France.
>
> The organizers invited me for the track `Économie Sociale et
> Solidaire`_ :-) . I'll do a talk on `Social economy or peer
> production? - On the relationship of social economy and peer
> production`_. In fact a topic which is nearly as old as Oekonux.
>
> For me this is a welcome reason to think more thoroughly about this
> important topic. I started doing some research on the topic -
> especially to clarify the notions of "social economy" and "solidarity
> economy". I started some slides_ already. So far only the headers are
> present, though.
>
> In any case I more than welcome thoughts and ideas from all of you on
> this topic.
>
> .. _10th RMLL: http://2009.rmll.info/
>
> .. _every year: http://2009.rmll.info/-Les-RMLL-.html
>
> .. _Économie Sociale et Solidaire:
> http://2009.rmll.info/-Economie-Sociale-et-Solidaire-.html
>
> .. _Social economy or peer production? - On the relationship of social
> economy and peer production:
> http://2009.rmll.info/Social-economy-or-peer-production.html
>
> .. _slides:
> http://en.wiki.oekonux.org/StefanMerten/SocialEconomyOrPeerProduction
>
>
>       Grüße
>
>       Stefan
> _________________________________
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>
>
>


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Andreas Exner,
Parteiunabhängiger AK-Rat
Grüne/UG Kärnten
www.grueneug.wordpress.com

Activist
Social Innovation Network - SINET
Weblog: www.social-innovation.org

Redakteur Streifzüge
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