Re: Peer production and/in academia (was: Re: [ox-en] Re: [p2pf] Launch of P2P Research Group)

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regarding Open Access, I'm in touch with some of the leaders like peter
suber and richard poynder and follow developments regularly through the
delicious tags on Open-Access-Movement and

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Stefan Merten <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mathieu, Michel, Andreas, all!
>
> Last month (36 days ago) Mathieu O'Neil wrote:
> > Aside from the relationship to academia -Ryan said that
> > traditional academia is quite a closed system - its true but its not
> > just an elitism thing - if you are credentialed (by an institution)
> > and published (in academic journals) it does indicate a level of
> > commitment / rigour / going through the right hoops etc - so it is
> > not obvious but hey why not try to have a rapprochement..
>
> I agree with Mathieu here. Of course academia has the need to raise
> more funds just to sustain the personnel. Of course the fight in
> academia for visibility is heavy. Of course these alienated incentives
> / necessities in a exchange based environment lead to a distortion of
> the very idea of academia.
>
> But: The institutions are necessary to keep quality standards. In
> completely different fields I personally see what happens to initially
> good ideas if they are not guided by an institutional embedding.
>
> I'm always trying to find out what is good and worthwhile keeping from
> the current world and what needs to be overcome. I think the rigor of
> institutions like universities is something which needs to be kept.
> The distortions coming from alienation need to be overcome. And the
> problem of expensive research machinery must be solved.
>
> Also: What we see in peer production is very similar to the original
> idea of academia: Let there be a free flow of ideas. In fact some
> years ago I heard people arguing that Free Software is very much based
> on the principles of academia.
>
> Even inside academia there is a movement which tries to make academia
> more like peer production. It is called OpenAccess - and frankly I'm a
> bit astonished that the thread I'm responding to didn't bring it up.
>
> So the scientists in the institutions *are* the agents for a change.
> It is very similar to the success of Free Software: Those who liked
> Free Software are inside of companies and continuously suggest it. And
> step by step things happen.
>
> In fact I think this is the way to go. In the case of the P2P Research
> Group I think it would be worthwhile thinking of proponents of the
> OpenAccess movement are included somehow (I have no idea how, though).
> There was also the idea of a scientific magazine - may be this could
> be combined somehow.
>
>
>                                                Grüße
>
>                                                Stefan
>



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