Re: [ox-en] A name for a peer-production-based society?
"Mathieu O'Neil" <[email protected]>
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[Converted from multipart/alternative] [1 text/plain] Hi all This will have to be short. Raoul, I have only read this very quickly so will not comment on the substance. I am sure your points are good. The problem for me is simple: if one were to say that a name / slogan is necessary, the name has to sound good. I'm sorry, but I cant find an aesthetic / communicational pleasure / punch in the term "gratisist" - to me it just does not sound right. Commonist may be wrong substantially but it has a better ring in my view. A superficial point of view maybe... best mathieu ----- Original Message ----- From: Raoul <raoulv-fBIn7JHAfCbUKx/[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009 1:15 am Subject: [ox-en] A name for a peer-production-based society? To: [email protected] > A name for a peer-production-based society ? > > Christian Siefkes wrote (13aug09): > "So we're still faced with two very different futures, which > Rosa Luxemburg contrasted as "socialism or barbarism" almost > hundred years ago. Though nowadays, seeing that the reopening of > the commons is an essential precondition for the positive > alternative to appear, we might prefer to call it commonism instead." > > The issue of giving a name to a "system" based on peer > production principles has been dealt with recently, more or less > directly, in the Oekonux list and also in a larger sphere. > Especially through the discussions about the Kevin Kelly's > article: "The New Socialism: Global Collectivist Society Is > Coming Online", (22may09) (1) > > About this article Stefan Meretz wrote (28may09): > "Btw: Kevin Kelly used the term 'socialism' too – crazy." > And Stefan Merten (4jun09): "Well, really an interesting > article. Indeed, very Oekonuxian in spirit." > > At another level, Mathieu O'Neil wrote (27may): "In general I > have been thinking about what Oekonux is for. My short answer: > Oekonux aims to disseminate the idea that peer production is a > valid alternative to capitalism." And Diego Saravia answered > asking (27may): "Esclavism, feudalism, capitalism, p2p-ism?" > > There are three interesting questions raised by these interventions: > 1 The meaning of the words "socialism" and "communism" (both > words had a similar evolution). > 2 The pertinence to call socialist or communist a society fully > based on peer production principles. > 3 The need and possibility to find a new word to name such a society. > > A few words about these issues. > > 1. The meaning of the words "socialism" and "communism" > > A whole book could be written (and that has probably been done) > about the evolution of the meaning of these words. In short one > can say that they appeared as expressions of a dream of a post- > capitalist society and ended as synonymous of totalitarian forms > of capitalism, state capitalism. > Even Hitler used the word socialism for his cause. > > At the origin, as a negation of capitalism, the different > meanings of these words had in common to be opposed to the two > most specific characteristics of capitalism: capital profit as > the goal of production and wage-labor as the way to mediate the > participation of the majority of producers. > The project, even if often nebulous, was generally identified > with a society without classes, without exploiters and > exploited, without private property of the means of production, > where production would be oriented exclusively towards the > satisfaction of human needs and where the participation of the > population and the distribution of goods would follow the > principle: "From each according to his ability, to each > according to his needs". > Other important characteristics of the original concepts of > socialism or communism were the ideas that workers have no > fatherland, ("The workers have no country", says The Communist > Manifesto; "The International will be the human race", says the > famous song), and that in a classless society there would be no > State. Marxist and Anarchist could strongly disagree about the > need or not of a State apparatus in a period of transition, but > they agreed on its absence in a full-developed non-capitalist society. > > For many reasons, some relating to weaknesses and defeats of the > workers movements, some relating to the manipulation skills of > the ruling classes, the understanding of these words evolved > dramatically until they could be used to name different forms of > state controlled capitalism. (2) It was the opposite of the > original meaning. > Instead of production oriented towards humans needs, production > remains oriented towards accumulation of capital, even if it is > State capital, a huge share of the product being generally > devoted to maintaining an unusually important military apparatus > and a rich and powerful bureaucracy which controls and possesses > collectively the means of production; instead of eliminating the > wage system, this is generalized and the level of wages for most > of the population is "equalized" to minimums; instead of > internationalism and worldwide brotherhood, nationalism is > exacerbated till its most absurd extremes ("Patria o muerte!"). > Horrors like the Cambodian genocide under the Pol-Pot regime > were made in the name of "socialism" or "communism". > Some "critical supporters" of that kind of regime argue that > they were/are not really socialist or communist, but "steps > towards" them. But historical evidence has violently showed that > it has never been the case. > > If one sticks to the original definition of socialism and > communism , it is obvious that none of them has ever existed or > even begun to exist. The identification of these terms with > state-capitalist regimes appears then as one the greatest and > most poisonous lies of the 20th century. > It must also be underscored that since the beginning of the > corruption of the meaning of these terms, there have always been > currents of Marxists or anarchists (generally minorities) which > remained faithful to the original meanings of these words and > permanently denounced the mystifications. Rosa Luxembourg, > quoted by Siefkes (above) was one of them. > > In any case, it is obvious that nowadays using the words > socialism or communism without specifying the meaning given to > them is source of important confusions. > > > 2. The pertinence to call socialist or communist a society fully > based on peer production principles. > > Kevin Kelly's article reads: > "When masses of people who own the means of production work > toward a common goal and share their products in common, when > they contribute labor without wages and enjoy the fruits free of > charge, it's not unreasonable to call that socialism." > > If one respects the original meaning of the word "socialism", > and if one leaves apart the political aspects of the question, > K. Kelly is correct. He could also had called that "communism". > Peer Production has developed in a universe where abundance > prevails for most of its products. Digital goods being freely > reproducible, the principles of private/excluding property and > symmetric exchange are not only useless but also counter- > productive. Original socialist/communist principles are also > based on the possibility of abundance (of material goods in this > case) and are thus basically the same. "From each according to > his ability, to each according to his needs", for example, is a > common practice in digital peer production. Peer production has > in addition the specific quality of being international, without > fatherlands and naturally worldwide oriented since the beginning. > > The problem is that the meaning of the word socialism (or > communism), for most of the population, is seldom the original > one. It rather evokes social-democratic or Stalinists regimes. > As Lawrence Lessig puts it in his criticisms to Kelly's article: > "So my argument against Kelly is that it is wrong to use a term > (in the context of a Wired essay at least; a philosophy seminar > would invoke a completely different set of ethics) that would be > so completely misunderstood. We choose our words. We don't > choose our meaning." (31may09) (3) > > I understand Kelly's concern as I think it is useful to > understand how peer production is the beginning of the > concretization of an old dream of exploited and poor classes in > history, as were the socialist/communist ideas. Even if for the > moment peer production concerns essentially the specific area of > digital goods, such a recognition can only be a stimulant to > strive for its expansion to the rest of social production. > Maybe, one day in the future, the meaning of socialism and > communism will be again, in most of the world population's mind, > the original one. But that would not be for tomorrow. In the > meantime, at a "popular" level, when there is not enough time or > place to explain, the use of this words, without precisions, is > inevitably confusing. > > > 3. The need and possibility to find a new word to name a peer > production "system". > > If socialism and communism are problematical, is it necessary to > find a new "ism" to name the system which would prevail in a > society based on peer production principles? > As Christian Siefkes (see above), I think the answer is yes. > Even if words may become dangerous by the ambiguities in their > meaning, as we have seen, we cannot think without them. "In the > beginning was the word". For human beings, a collective project > can hardly be devised, worked-out without naming it. A name > helps to concentrate the wills, the thoughts, the actions of a > movement in a given direction. > > The word "commonism", proposed by Christian Siefkes (and Stefan > Meretz (4)) refers indeed to one of the most specific and post- > capitalistic aspects of Peer Production: to be commons based and > commons oriented. It also gives the idea of a continuity with > the old dreams. But it is obvious that it echoes the word > "communism", especially verbally, and has thus the same > disorienting effects. > > Since some time, I have been thinking that something like > "gratisism" could be a solution. > "Gratis is the process of providing goods or services without > monetary compensation. It is often referred to in English as > 'free of charge'. ", says Wikipedia in English. And it adds: > "The term gratis in English comes from the Latin word "gratis" > meaning "for thanks". In several languages, including Italian, > French, Romanian, Swedish, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Danish, > Norwegian, German, Polish, Bahasa Indonesia and Afrikaans it is > the equivalent to "for free". (5) > > I think that a word based on "gratis" has interesting > advantages, but also weaknesses. > The advantages are of two kinds: theoretical and > "communicative". From a theoretical point of view it has the > virtue to puts the emphasis on the overcoming of the kernel of > capitalism: the law of exchange value. You don't sell, you don't > buy. Without exchange value, the wage system and the > accumulation of capital become nonsenses. Use-value, usefulness > as the object of production instead of exchange value is highlighted. > From a "communicative" point of view, I see three obvious advantages: > 1. The word gratis has an immediate meaning for every one. Even > if you are not familiar with the web and digital goods, you know > that your best relationships with others (friends, love, > relatives) are, generally, "gratis". 2. The word "gratisism" is > new. It does not suffer from the weight of "the tradition of all > dead generations". The continuity with the past is reinvented > from a new point of view. 3. Last and... least, the word > "gratis" has the same meaning in more than a dozen languages. > > But I also see a weakness: "gratisism" may be identified with > practices that are "gratis" only apparently. Two of them are > particularly frequent and remain totally in a capitalistic > logic. One concerns the goods financed by commercial > advertising, very present in the web (Google is only one of the > most spectacular examples). Here, the good is in reality payed > by the buyer of the advertized products. Furthermore, > advertising relays on one of the darkest aspects of the 20th > century mind manipulation: "A lie repeated a thousand times > becomes a truth", (Goebbels). The second false "gratisism" > concerns the public services which are sometimes said "gratis" > but are in fact payed by the tax payer. > This is not the kind of “graticism†we want. Commercial > advertising and taxes are meaningless in a world without money. > I don't know how disorienting that can be, but there is here > obviously a problem. > But, will we find a perfect term? > > One may say that it is a waste of time to try to find a word to > name something that can only be the product of the action of > billions of people all over the world, that the movement itself > will find the most appropriated terms. Which is true. But the > problem is that we are also part of that movement. > > Raoul Victor > > 1sep09 > > Notes: > 1. http://www.wired.com/culture/culturereviews/magazine/17- > 06/nep_newsocialism?currentPage=all > 2. Socialism and communism have not always had identical > meanings. For example, socialism has some times been associated > to a previous step towards communism. During the first World War > the word "communist" was used by the left wing of the workers > movement to distinguish themselves from the majority of the > "socialist" (social-democratic) parties that had called in every > country to participate to the war. After the Russian Revolution > and the foundation of the Third International, also called the > Communist International, the communist parties where in general > much closer to the USSR and related regimes than the > "socialist". During the "Cold war", the Socialist International > regrouped parties associated to the Western (pro USA) bloc > against the parties affiliated to the Komintern (Communist > International, pro USSR), etc. But the evolution of the meaning > of both words suffered an analogous dramatic corruption. > To a certain extent, something similar happened to Christianity > which started as a "commons based" religion (first christian > used to put in common their belongings) and evolved into one of > the strongest pillars of the inequality-based systems: slavery, > feudalism, capitalism. > > 3. http://www.keimform.de/2008/11/08/seven-hypotheses-about-commonism/ > 4. http://www.lessig.org/blog/2009/05/on_socialism_round_ii.html > 5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gratis > > _________________________________ > Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ > Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ > Contact: [email protected] **** Dr Mathieu O'Neil Adjunct Research Fellow Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute College of Arts and Social Science The Australian National University E-mail: [email protected] Tel.: (61 02) 61 25 38 00 Web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php Mail: Coombs Building, 9 Canberra, ACT 0200 - AUSTRALIA [2 text/html] _________________________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: [email protected]