Re: [ox-en] WikiLeaks and peer production?

Alistair Davidson <[email protected]> Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:24:21 +0000
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Is this essential, though? Linux lacks formal democracy, but remains
democratic in character due to the political economy - the communal nature
of the output (eg the ability to fork and patch prevents non-consensual
rule). And as we all know formal democracy can disguise tyranny. The
emergence of other leaks sites suggests that in the medium-term, something
similar will be true of these, and the ability of members to leave the
organisation at will suggests that those who remain must be okay with what's
going on. A project manager or editor is not a dictator.

The one real harm WikiLeaks could do to the working class is refuse to
publish a beneficial leak. I don't think they are likely to do so, but the
emergence of a few more sites should hedge against that becoming a problem.

On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Mathieu ONeil <[email protected]>wrote:

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> > Does this change the character of being peer-production?
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> Apart from the money/governance angle it is not clear to me how they
> actually operate - how democratically or openly decisions are taken, apart
> from the fact that the reason openleaks forked off was because "Schmitt"
> contested the autocracry of the WL founder - see the Wired-leaked IRC chat
> logs etc.
> cheers,
> Mathieu
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Meretz <stefan-/[email protected]>
> Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 10:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [ox-en] WikiLeaks and peer production?
> To: [email protected]
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> > On 2011-02-08 21:56, Mathieu ONeil wrote:
> > > (...) raised the question of the deal
> > > with the newspapers: does it cover expenses, legal fees etc?
> > No-one
> > > knows. So while they may be producing transparency externally the
> > > same cannot be said for their inner operations.
> >
> > Concerning WikiLeaks that's true and commonly criticized. We
> > will see if
> > OpenLeaks will do better. Is every free software project
> > transparent in
> > this regard (serious question, I don't know)?
> >
> > Does this change the character of being peer-production?
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Stefan
> >
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