Re: [ox-en] WikiLeaks and peer production?
Alistair Davidson <[email protected]> Wed, 9 Feb 2011 02:24:21 +0000
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[Converted from multipart/alternative] [1 text/plain] Is this essential, though? Linux lacks formal democracy, but remains democratic in character due to the political economy - the communal nature of the output (eg the ability to fork and patch prevents non-consensual rule). And as we all know formal democracy can disguise tyranny. The emergence of other leaks sites suggests that in the medium-term, something similar will be true of these, and the ability of members to leave the organisation at will suggests that those who remain must be okay with what's going on. A project manager or editor is not a dictator. The one real harm WikiLeaks could do to the working class is refuse to publish a beneficial leak. I don't think they are likely to do so, but the emergence of a few more sites should hedge against that becoming a problem. On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 11:19 PM, Mathieu ONeil <[email protected]>wrote: > [Converted from multipart/alternative] > > [1 text/plain] > > Does this change the character of being peer-production? > > Apart from the money/governance angle it is not clear to me how they > actually operate - how democratically or openly decisions are taken, apart > from the fact that the reason openleaks forked off was because "Schmitt" > contested the autocracry of the WL founder - see the Wired-leaked IRC chat > logs etc. > cheers, > Mathieu > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stefan Meretz <stefan-/[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2011 10:49 pm > Subject: Re: [ox-en] WikiLeaks and peer production? > To: [email protected] > > > On 2011-02-08 21:56, Mathieu ONeil wrote: > > > (...) raised the question of the deal > > > with the newspapers: does it cover expenses, legal fees etc? > > No-one > > > knows. So while they may be producing transparency externally the > > > same cannot be said for their inner operations. > > > > Concerning WikiLeaks that's true and commonly criticized. We > > will see if > > OpenLeaks will do better. Is every free software project > > transparent in > > this regard (serious question, I don't know)? > > > > Does this change the character of being peer-production? > > > > Ciao, > > Stefan > > > > -- > > Start here: www.meretz.de > > _________________________________ > > Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ > > Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ > > Contact: [email protected] > > **** > Dr Mathieu O'Neil > Adjunct Research Fellow > Australian Demographic and Social Research Institute > College of Arts and Social Science > The Australian National University > email: mathieu.oneil[at]anu.edu.au > web: http://adsri.anu.edu.au/people/visitors/mathieu.php > > > > > > [2 text/html] > _________________________________ > Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ > Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ > Contact: [email protected] > [2 text/html] _________________________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: [email protected]