Re: [ox-en] Closing Project Oekonux down
joaquin <[email protected]> Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:10:32 +0200
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Salud, Al que está muerto hay que enterrarlo, pero, como dice Marx, el peso de los muertos gravita sobre nuestras cabezas. Puede ser que los que discuten estén agotados, pero no el tema sobre el que lo hacen. Socialmente sigue vivo. La wertkritik, representada principalmente ahora por A. Jappe, después de la desgraciada muerte de Kurz, tiene claro la poca trascendencia de las TIC, el DIY y la autogestión latinoamericana en un eventual cambio revolucionario. Sin embargo, en España, herederos del cyberpunk han desarrollado toda una teoría al respecto (http://lasindias.org/) y una realidad práctica (http://grupolasindias.coop/sociedad-de-las-indias/). Pero lo más importante, ante la crisis, es la necesidad de sobrevivir, de modo que proyectos críticos minúsculos devienen importantes (http://medialab-prado.es/?lang=en) y masivos en la difusión de ideas y técnicas que se pretenden alternativas al capitalismo y en las que la palabra "mercado" quiere tener un significado diferente. La discusión no está acabada. Si cerráis, deberíais publicar vuestras razones teóricas de forma proporcional al trabajo que habéis desarrollado en estos años. Saludos Joaquín Google Translate version When he is dead we must bury him, but, as Marx says, the weight of the dead hangs over our heads. It may be that the disputants are exhausted, but not the issue that they do. Socially still alive. The wertkritik, now mainly represented by A. Jappe, after the unfortunate death of Kurz, is clear the little importance of ICT, the DIY and self-management in a possible Latin American revolutionary change. However, in Spain, heirs of cyberpunk have developed a theory about (http://lasindias.org/) and a practical reality (http://grupolasindias.coop/sociedad-de-las-indias/). But more importantly, before the crisis, is the need to survive, so that tiny critical projects become important (http://medialab-prado.es/?lang=en) and massive dissemination of ideas and techniques seek alternatives to capitalism and in which the word "market" wants to have a different meaning. The discussion is not over. If you close, you should publish your theoretical reasons proportionally to work you have developed over the years. On 22/04/13 09:08, Stefan Merten wrote: > Hi! > > On the German discussion list the issue of closing down Project > Oekonux came up. The reason is that the project is sleeping for so > long now and there is nothing to believe that this is going to change > again. Although this feels heart-breaking to some people there is a > consensus that this is the right thing to do. > > Of course the web-based resources need to be kept in place. Technical > details are to be discussed on the project list. > > Comments? > > > Grüße > > Stefan _________________________________ Web-Site: http://www.oekonux.org/ Organization: http://www.oekonux.de/projekt/ Contact: [email protected]