Scientists Back Global Warming Evidence
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Scientists back global warming evidence
10 December 2009, by Sara Coelho
UK scientists have thrown their weight behind global warming science with
a statement signed by 1700 researchers in support of existing evidence and
upholding the conclusion that global warming is unequivocal.
Sunset
The evidence and the science is extensive and comes from decades of
painstaking and meticulous research, by many thousands of scientists
across the world who adhere to the highest levels of professional
integrity, reads to the statement.
The initiative is the scientific community's response to the ongoing
questioning of core climate science and methods, after private emails
between researchers were stolen from the University of East Anglia.
'It is almost impossible to explain the recent very rapid warming as a
natural cycle.'
Dr Chris Huntingford,
Centre for Ecology and Hydrology
The statement was coordinated by the Met Office and gathered over 1700
signatures in four days.
'This tremendous response affirms our confidence in the science, and
reinforces the immediacy of the challenge and the critical nature of the
discussions at Copenhagen,' write Professor John Hirst and Professor Julia
Slingo in a note released by the Met Office.
The statement reiterates that climate change 'research has been subject to
peer review and publication, providing traceability of the evidence and
support for the scientific method.'
Signatories include Professor Alan Thorpe, chief executive of the Natural
Environment Research Council; Professor Ed Hill, director of the National
Oceanography Centre Southampton; and Professor Brian Hoskins, head of the
Grantham Institute for Climate Change at the Imperial College London.
Dr Chris Huntingford from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology believes
that the debate on climate change has become polarised and emotional and
that we need to focus on the laws of physics. 'The Earth System does have
internal cycles, but when fusing together the global temperature record -
which has been built independently in both the UK and the USA - with
climate models based on fundamental physical understanding, it is almost
impossible to explain the recent very rapid warming as a natural cycle,'
he says.
Professor Myles Allen a climate change expert at the University of Oxford
is critical of media reports that some scientists were coerced to sign the
statement. 'What is bizarre in this whole story is that no evidence has
emerged there is anything actually wrong with the instrumental temperature
record at the centre of this whole affair [the email leak that prompted
the recent controversy],' he says. 'But journalists seem to regard this as
a relatively uninteresting fact, instead grubbing up "human interest"
stories like someone who claims they "felt under pressure to sign", which
is patently ridiculous. No one was obliged to answer the e-mail request at
all.'
'There are at least three independent collections of data of climate over
the last millennium, and the instrumental data is very diverse,' says Dr
Eelco Rohling, professor of ocean and climate change based at the National
Oceanography Centre, Southampton. 'Despite short-term variability, spatial
differences, and inherent problems of calibration in certain instances,
these data give strong indications that global warming is happening. We
ignore it at our own peril. This is why I signed the statement.'
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Well if they hadn't have done that a dark cloud would be hanging over
their huge research grants. Then they would have to find something else to
research in order to get a grant to sustain their lives in academia.
It's in their own self-interest to support the man-made climate change
doom & gloom in the same way it's in lawyers interests to be in favour of
the Human Rights Act.
Of course climates change over a period of time. To think they would
remain constant to the nearest degree for 100 years is unrealistic.
Temperatures fluctuate and are influenced by various simultaneous cycles
that have varying durations, plus random events thrown into the mix too.
Yes, let's cut all types of emissions and try to recycle more, but not for
the reasons that political activists scream about. Many types of emissions
are known to cause biological and direct environmental harm. And we only
have so much natural resources on this planet of ours and once they've
gone, they've gone! Be "green" for those reasons and not because of the
political scaremongering that we're all going to die in mass flooding
because half the country forgets to their mobile phone chargers.
Simon Wallis, UK
Thursday, 10 December 2009 - 20:17
Hello Simon,
Thanks for your comment. I agree with quite a lot of your last paragraph,
but I'm not sure you're being fair to the scientists on this. So many
sceptical claims in this area seem to amount to people saying they know
more about climate science than climate scientists do, usually based on
reading only popular material and not real scientific literature. It's
hard to imagine large numbers of people deciding to tell particle
physicists, say, that they're totally wrong about quarks; I don't really
understand why so many people are so keen to lecture environmental
scientists on how they have no clue about topics they've spent their
professional lives studying!
"Of course climates change over a period of time. To think they would
remain constant to the nearest degree for 100 years is unrealistic.
Temperatures fluctuate and are influenced by various simultaneous cycles
that have varying durations, plus random events thrown into the mix too."
You're right, but all climate scientists recognise this. Not one of them
I've ever spoken to or heard about thinks the climate wouldn't change if
it wasn't for human activities, or denies that it's changed greatly in the
past. As Chris Huntingford says above, the point is it's hard to see how
the changes we're seeing at the moment could be caused by natural
variation alone.
More generally, saying that scientists will tell any lies necessary to
maintain their grants is corrosive of reasonable debate on this or any
other subject. It's difficult for scientists to have a discussion with
people if they're going to dismiss any and all evidence that conflicts
with their beliefs as obvious lies, on the sole basis that it conflicts
with said beliefs.
Tom Marshall, Editor, Planet Earth Online
Friday, 11 December 2009 - 10:23
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Scientists back global warming evidence<br>
<br>
10 December 2009, by Sara Coelho<br>
<br>
UK scientists have thrown their weight behind global warming science with <br>
a statement signed by 1700 researchers in support of existing evidence and <br>
upholding the conclusion that global warming is unequivocal.<br>
Sunset<br>
<br>
The evidence and the science is extensive and comes from decades of <br>
painstaking and meticulous research, by many thousands of scientists <br>
across the world who adhere to the highest levels of professional <br>
integrity, reads to the statement.<br>
<br>
The initiative is the scientific community's response to the ongoing <br>
questioning of core climate science and methods, after private emails <br>
between researchers were stolen from the University of East Anglia.<br>
<br>
'It is almost impossible to explain the recent very rapid warming as a <br>
natural cycle.'<br>
Dr Chris Huntingford,<br>
Centre for Ecology and Hydrology<br>
<br>
The statement was coordinated by the Met Office and gathered over 1700 <br>
signatures in four days.<br>
<br>
'This tremendous response affirms our confidence in the science, and <br>
reinforces the immediacy of the challenge and the critical nature of the <br>
discussions at Copenhagen,' write Professor John Hirst and Professor Julia <br>
Slingo in a note released by the Met Office.<br>
<br>
The statement reiterates that climate change 'research has been subject to <br>
peer review and publication, providing traceability of the evidence and <br>
support for the scientific method.'<br>
<br>
Signatories include Professor Alan Thorpe, chief executive of the Natural <br>
Environment Research Council; Professor Ed Hill, director of the National <br>
Oceanography Centre Southampton; and Professor Brian Hoskins, head of the <br>
Grantham Institute for Climate Change at the Imperial College London.<br>
<br>
Dr Chris Huntingford from the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology believes <br>
that the debate on climate change has become polarised and emotional and <br>
that we need to focus on the laws of physics. 'The Earth System does have <br>
internal cycles, but when fusing together the global temperature record - <br>
which has been built independently in both the UK and the USA - with <br>
climate models based on fundamental physical understanding, it is almost <br>
impossible to explain the recent very rapid warming as a natural cycle,' <br>
he says.<br>
<br>
Professor Myles Allen a climate change expert at the University of Oxford <br>
is critical of media reports that some scientists were coerced to sign the <br>
statement. 'What is bizarre in this whole story is that no evidence has <br>
emerged there is anything actually wrong with the instrumental temperature <br>
record at the centre of this whole affair [the email leak that prompted <br>
the recent controversy]<wbr>,' he says. 'But journalists seem to regard this as <br>
a relatively uninteresting fact, instead grubbing up "human interest" <br>
stories like someone who claims they "felt under pressure to sign", which <br>
is patently ridiculous. No one was obliged to answer the e-mail request at <br>
all.'<br>
<br>
'There are at least three independent collections of data of climate over <br>
the last millennium, and the instrumental data is very diverse,' says Dr <br>
Eelco Rohling, professor of ocean and climate change based at the National <br>
Oceanography Centre, Southampton. 'Despite short-term variability, spatial <br>
differences, and inherent problems of calibration in certain instances, <br>
these data give strong indications that global warming is happening. We <br>
ignore it at our own peril. This is why I signed the statement.'<br>
<br>
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Well if they hadn't have done that a dark cloud would be hanging over <br>
their huge research grants. Then they would have to find something else to <br>
research in order to get a grant to sustain their lives in academia.<br>
<br>
It's in their own self-interest to support the man-made climate change <br>
doom & gloom in the same way it's in lawyers interests to be in favour of <br>
the Human Rights Act.<br>
<br>
Of course climates change over a period of time. To think they would <br>
remain constant to the nearest degree for 100 years is unrealistic. <br>
Temperatures fluctuate and are influenced by various simultaneous cycles <br>
that have varying durations, plus random events thrown into the mix too.<br>
<br>
Yes, let's cut all types of emissions and try to recycle more, but not for <br>
the reasons that political activists scream about. Many types of emissions <br>
are known to cause biological and direct environmental harm. And we only <br>
have so much natural resources on this planet of ours and once they've <br>
gone, they've gone! Be "green" for those reasons and not because of the <br>
political scaremongering that we're all going to die in mass flooding <br>
because half the country forgets to their mobile phone chargers.<br>
<br>
Simon Wallis, UK<br>
Thursday, 10 December 2009 - 20:17<br>
<br>
Hello Simon,<br>
<br>
Thanks for your comment. I agree with quite a lot of your last paragraph, <br>
but I'm not sure you're being fair to the scientists on this. So many <br>
sceptical claims in this area seem to amount to people saying they know <br>
more about climate science than climate scientists do, usually based on <br>
reading only popular material and not real scientific literature. It's <br>
hard to imagine large numbers of people deciding to tell particle <br>
physicists, say, that they're totally wrong about quarks; I don't really <br>
understand why so many people are so keen to lecture environmental <br>
scientists on how they have no clue about topics they've spent their <br>
professional lives studying!<br>
<br>
"Of course climates change over a period of time. To think they would <br>
remain constant to the nearest degree for 100 years is unrealistic. <br>
Temperatures fluctuate and are influenced by various simultaneous cycles <br>
that have varying durations, plus random events thrown into the mix too."<br>
<br>
You're right, but all climate scientists recognise this. Not one of them <br>
I've ever spoken to or heard about thinks the climate wouldn't change if <br>
it wasn't for human activities, or denies that it's changed greatly in the <br>
past. As Chris Huntingford says above, the point is it's hard to see how <br>
the changes we're seeing at the moment could be caused by natural <br>
variation alone.<br>
<br>
More generally, saying that scientists will tell any lies necessary to <br>
maintain their grants is corrosive of reasonable debate on this or any <br>
other subject. It's difficult for scientists to have a discussion with <br>
people if they're going to dismiss any and all evidence that conflicts <br>
with their beliefs as obvious lies, on the sole basis that it conflicts <br>
with said beliefs.<br>
<br>
Tom Marshall, Editor, Planet Earth Online<br>
Friday, 11 December 2009 - 10:23<br>
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