[AlbClub] Kur luan futboll shqiptari...
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Ne artikullin e meposhtem
shkruar nga nje australian mistrec, ka nje tentative (per mendimin tim
goxha te suksesshme per nje shkrim kaq te shkurter) per psikologjisjen
e shqiptareve (brenda e jashte kufijve), pozicionimi i ndryshem ndaj
nocionit te=C2=A0 "shqiptarise" (sipas autorit, vetem "shqiptaret e
Shqiperise" nuk bien telef qe te tregojne vazhdimisht se sa "shqiptare"
jane),=C2=A0 si dhe marrdheniet e tyre me njeri-tjetrin.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Vecaner=
isht te
kendshme jane dhe vezhgimet e sub-kulutures shqiptare te stadiumeve, te
kompletuara me=C2=A0 imazhin e lekurave te farave te
lulediellit te peshtyra pertoke ("... pertoke, si te ishin mijera krahe
mizash te shkulura"), dhe te gjitha te sharat nga motra qe fluturojne
mbi kokat e spektatoreve.=20
Shkrimi eshte kopjuar me poshte ne kete email dhe eshte marre nga ky link:=20
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albanians-play/20=
08/09/10/1220857638772.html
Borders disappear when Albanians play
Rod Curtis
September 11, 2008
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SILLY me. As I walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup
qualifier in Albania's capital, Tirana, on Saturday night, I
thought a national team was made up of people from, well, one
country.
But in the Bal
kans, it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than
that. Here, a national team is made up of people from one
nation, regardless of where they call home.
And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has
five ethnic Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it.
Despite the
fact that in February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as
a country recognised by 46 countries =E2=80=94 including the US and
Australia =E2=80=94 but not recognised by another 36 countries =E2=80=94
including Russia and China =E2=80=94 is independent.
Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that
looks likely to field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do
Kosovo's five internationals do? Not play at all? Play for Serbia?
Fat chance. Or do they play for Albania, because they're Albanians,
after all, just like New Zealanders are Australians. Ermm.
Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender
Debatik Curri, for one, has declared he will stay in the red and
black for reasons of honour: One strong national team is better
than two weak ones. Ermm II.
This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me
seated three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the
travelling Kosovar ultras.
They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was
played =E2=80=94 there wasn't a boo in the house =E2=80=94 they proudly
waved their new blue-and-gold flag, they sat munching on black
sunflower seeds until th
e floor was a carpet of shells like
thousands of discarded flies wings, and they showered abuse on the
traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for Sweden =E2=80=94
who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, but
I reckon that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's=20
spent
his whole life in Kosovo is Albanian.
When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking
the Albanian Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly
confused. Then the Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left,
started chanting at all the other Albanians: "We're sleeping with
your sisters". Which, given they all holiday at the same beaches,
may occasionally be true.
Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you
could pick the Albanians actually from Albania =E2=80=94 they were the
ones not spending the entire match telling everyone else how
Albanian they were. And there might be a lesson in that.
The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish
threats Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact,
while Albania, under new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised,
worked hard and created many chances.
It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi
lookalike, 20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat
his man to put in dangerous crosses down the left and had a
laser-like shot at goal tipped over the bar.
At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper
kick
ing the ball away in disgust. Which serves them right for
stacking the defence all night and presuming they'd do the business
on the counter.
For the Albanians =E2=80=94 Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and
Montenegrin =E2=80=94 the draw was a car horn-honking victory to be
celebrated.
In the first match of20the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one
point, but missed another.
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<font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif">Ne artikullin e meposhtem
shkruar nga nje australian mistrec, ka nje tentative (per mendimin tim
goxha te suksesshme per nje shkrim kaq te shkurter) per psikologjisjen
e shqiptareve (brenda e jashte kufijve), pozicionimi i ndryshem ndaj
nocionit te "shqiptarise" (sipas autorit, vetem "shqiptaret e
Shqiperise" nuk bien telef qe te tregojne vazhdimisht se sa "shqiptare"
jane), si dhe marrdheniet e tyre me njeri-tjetrin. Vecaner=
isht te
kendshme jane dhe vezhgimet e sub-kulutures shqiptare te stadiumeve, te
kompletuara me imazhin e lekurave te farave te
lulediellit te peshtyra pertoke ("... pertoke, si te ishin mijera krahe
mizash te shkulura"), dhe te gjitha te sharat nga motra qe fluturojne
mbi kokat e spektatoreve. <br>
<br>
Shkrimi eshte kopjuar me poshte ne kete email dhe eshte marre nga ky link: <=
/font><font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
<a href=3D"http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albani=
ans-play/2008/09/10/1220857638772.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.theage.=
com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albanians-play/2008/09/10/122085763=
8772.html</a></font><h1>Borders disappear when Albanians play</h1>
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<div id=3D"bylineDetails">Rod Curtis<br>
September 11, 2008<font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
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<div><b>S</b>ILLY me. As I walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup
qualifier in Albania's capital, Tirana, on Saturday night, I
thought a national team was made up of people from, well, one=3D0
Acountry.</div>
<div>But in the Bal
kans, it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than
that. Here, a national team is made up of people from one
<i>nation</i>, regardless of where they call home.</div>
<div>And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has
five ethnic Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it. Despite the
fact that in February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as
a country recognised by 46 countries =E2=80=94 including the US and
Australia =E2=80=94 but not recognised by another 36 countries =E2=80=94
including Russia and China =E2=80=94 is independent.</div>
<div>Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that
looks likely to field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do
Kosovo's five internationals do? Not play at all? Play for Serbia?
Fat chance. Or do they play for Albania, because they're Albanians,
after all, just like New Zealanders are Australians. Ermm.</div>
<div>Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender
Debatik Curri, for one, has declared he will stay in the red and
black for reasons of honour: One strong national team is better
than two weak ones. Ermm II.</div>
<div>This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me
seated three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the
travelling Kosovar ultras.</div>
<div>They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was
played =E2=80=94 there wasn't a boo in the house =E2=80=94 they proudly
waved their new blu
e-and-gold flag, they sat munching on black
sunflower seeds until th
e floor was a carpet of shells like
thousands of discarded flies wings, and they showered abuse on the
traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for Sweden =E2=80=94
who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, but
I reckon that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's spent
his whole life in Kosovo is Albanian.</div>
<div>When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking
the Albanian Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly
confused. Then the Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left,
started chanting at all the other Albanians: "We're sleeping with
your sisters". Which, given they all holiday at the same beaches,
may occasionally be true.</div>
<div>Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you
could pick the Albanians actually from Albania =E2=80=94 they were the
ones not spending the entire match telling everyone else how
Albanian they were. And there might be a lesson in that.</div>
<div>The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish
threats Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact,
while Albania, under new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised,
worked hard and created many chances.</div>
<div>It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi
lookalike, 20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat
his man to put in dangerous crosses down the left and had a
laser-like shot at goal tipped over20the bar.</div>
<div>At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper
kick
ing the ball away in disgust. Which serves them right for
stacking the defence all night and presuming they'd do the business
on the counter.</div>
<div>For the Albanians =E2=80=94 Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and
Montenegrin =E2=80=94 the draw was a car horn-honking victory to be
celebrated.</div>
<div>In the first match of the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one
point, but missed another.<font face=3D"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
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