Re: [AlbClub] Kur luan futboll shqiptari...
"D Blloshmi" <[email protected]> Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:19:56 -0400
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Une mendoj qe nuk ka pas ndonje tentative tjeter fare, pervec se ka =
thene te
verteten! =20
Kudo qe je, edhe ne Amerike, shqiptaret nga vendet e tjera gjithmone =
bejne
zhurme te madhe qe te duken qe jane shqiptare.por kjo nuk eshte e thene =
se
jane me shume ose me pake shqiptare se ne qe kemi lindur ne ate vend.
=20
Ndoshta ka te beje me "psikologjine e shqiptareve, edhe pozicionin e
ndryshem ndaj nocionit te "shqiptarise"," sic e the ti...por une nuk e
kuptoj shume kete arsye.
=20
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] =
On
Behalf Of [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [AlbClub] Kur luan futboll shqiptari...
=20
Ne artikullin e meposhtem shkruar nga nje australian mistrec, ka nje
tentative (per mendimin tim goxha te suksesshme per nje shkrim kaq te
shkurter) per psikologjisjen e shqiptareve (brenda e jashte kufijve),
pozicionimi i ndryshem ndaj nocionit te "shqiptarise" (sipas autorit, =
vetem
"shqiptaret e Shqiperise" nuk bien telef qe te tregojne vazhdimisht se =
sa
"shqiptare" jane), si dhe marrdheniet e tyre me njeri-tjetrin.
Vecanerisht te kendshme jane dhe vezhgimet e sub-kulutures shqiptare te
stadiumeve, te kompletuara me imazhin e lekurave te farave te =
lulediellit
te peshtyra pertoke ("... pertoke, si te ishin mijera krahe mizash te
shkulura"), dhe te gjitha te sharat nga motra qe fluturojne mbi kokat e
spektatoreve.=20
Shkrimi eshte kopjuar me poshte ne kete email dhe eshte marre nga ky =
link:=20
http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albanians-play=
/20
08/09/10/1220857638772.html
Borders disappear when Albanians play
Rod Curtis
September 11, 2008
SILLY me. As I walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup qualifier in
Albania's capital, Tirana, on Saturday night, I thought a national team =
was
made up of people from, well, one=3D0 Acountry.
But in the Bal kans, it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than that. =
Here,
a national team is made up of people from one nation, regardless of =
where
they call home.
And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has five =
ethnic
Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it. Despite the fact that in
February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as a country =
recognised
by 46 countries b=14 including the US and Australia b=14 but not =
recognised by
another 36 countries b=14 including Russia and China b=14 is =
independent.
Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that looks likely =
to
field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do Kosovo's five
internationals do? Not play at all? Play for Serbia? Fat chance. Or do =
they
play for Albania, because they're Albanians, after all, just like New
Zealanders are Australians. Ermm.
Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender Debatik =
Curri,
for one, has declared he will stay in the red and black for reasons of
honour: One strong national team is better than two weak ones. Ermm II.
This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me seated
three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the travelling
Kosovar ultras.
They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was played b=14 =
there
wasn't a boo in the house b=14 they proudly waved their new blu =
e-and-gold
flag, they sat munching on black sunflower seeds until th e floor was a
carpet of shells like thousands of discarded flies wings, and they =
showered
abuse on the traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for Sweden =
b=14
who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, but I =
reckon
that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's spent his whole =
life in
Kosovo is Albanian.
When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking the =
Albanian
Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly confused. Then the
Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left, started chanting at all the
other Albanians: "We're sleeping with your sisters". Which, given they =
all
holiday at the same beaches, may occasionally be true.
Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you could pick =
the
Albanians actually from Albania b=14 they were the ones not spending the
entire match telling everyone else how Albanian they were. And there =
might
be a lesson in that.
The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish threats
Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact, while Albania,
under new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised, worked hard and =
created
many chances.
It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi lookalike,
20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat his man to put in
dangerous crosses down the left and had a laser-like shot at goal tipped
over20the bar.
At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper kick ing the =
ball
away in disgust. Which serves them right for stacking the defence all =
night
and presuming they'd do the business on the counter.
For the Albanians b=14 Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and Montenegrin =
b=14 the
draw was a car horn-honking victory to be celebrated.
In the first match of the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one point, =
but
missed another.
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D1 face=3DArial><span =
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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Une mendoj qe nuk ka pas ndonje =
tentative tjeter
fare, pervec se ka thene te verteten! =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D1 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Kudo qe je, edhe ne Amerike, =
shqiptaret nga
vendet e tjera gjithmone bejne zhurme te madhe qe te duken qe jane =
shqiptare…por
kjo nuk eshte e thene se jane me shume ose me pake shqiptare se ne qe =
kemi
lindur ne ate vend.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D1 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></=
p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D1 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.0pt;
font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold'>Ndoshta ka te beje me =
“psikologjine e
shqiptareve, edhe pozicionin e ndryshem ndaj nocionit te =
“shqiptarise”,”
sic e the ti…..por une nuk e kuptoj shume kete =
arsye.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D1 face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 face=3DTahoma><span =
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face=3DTahoma><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] =
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>[email protected]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September =
11, 2008
1:51 PM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
[email protected]<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [AlbClub] Kur =
luan
futboll shqiptari...</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Ne artikullin e meposhtem shkruar nga nje australian
mistrec, ka nje tentative (per mendimin tim goxha te suksesshme per nje =
shkrim
kaq te shkurter) per psikologjisjen e shqiptareve (brenda e jashte =
kufijve),
pozicionimi i ndryshem ndaj nocionit te "shqiptarise" =
(sipas
autorit, vetem "shqiptaret e Shqiperise" nuk bien telef qe te
tregojne vazhdimisht se sa "shqiptare" jane), si dhe
marrdheniet e tyre me njeri-tjetrin. Vecanerisht te kendshme =
jane
dhe vezhgimet e sub-kulutures shqiptare te stadiumeve, te kompletuara =
me
imazhin e lekurave te farave te lulediellit te peshtyra pertoke =
("...
pertoke, si te ishin mijera krahe mizash te shkulura"), dhe te =
gjitha te
sharat nga motra qe fluturojne mbi kokat e spektatoreve. <br>
<br>
Shkrimi eshte kopjuar me poshte ne kete email dhe eshte marre nga ky =
link: <br>
<a
href=3D"http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-when-albani=
ans-play/2008/09/10/1220857638772.html"
target=3D"_blank">http://www.theage.com.au/news/sport/borders-disappear-w=
hen-albanians-play/2008/09/10/1220857638772.html</a></span></font><o:p></=
o:p></p>
<h1><b><font size=3D6 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:24.0pt'>Borders
disappear when Albanians play<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></h1>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3D3
face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Rod Curtis<br>
September 11, 2008<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>S</span></font></b>ILLY me. =
As I
walked to the Albania v Sweden World Cup qualifier in Albania's capital,
Tirana, on Saturday night, I thought a national team was made up of =
people
from, well, one=3D0 Acountry.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>But in the Bal <st1:State w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">kans</st1:place></st1:State>,
it seems, the waters are a bit muddier than that. Here, a national team =
is made
up of people from one <i><span =
style=3D'font-style:italic'>nation</span></i>,
regardless of where they call home.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>And so I discovered that the Albanian national soccer team has =
five
ethnic Albanian blokes from Kosovo playing in it. Despite the fact that =
in
February, Kosovo was declared independent, inasmuch as a country =
recognised by
46 countries b including the <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">US</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on">Australia</st1:country-region> =
b but not
recognised by another 36 countries b including <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on">Russia</st1:country-region>
and <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">China</st1:place></st1:country-region>
b is independent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Which, let's be honest, isn't the sort of independence that =
looks
likely to field its own soccer team anytime soon. So what do Kosovo's =
five
internationals do? Not play at all? Play for <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Serbia</st1:place></st1:country-region>? Fat chance. Or do =
they play
for <st1:country-region w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Albania</st1:place></st1:country-region>,
because they're Albanians, after all, just like New Zealanders are =
Australians.
Ermm.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Then what happens if Kosovo does get its own team? Defender =
Debatik
Curri, for one, has declared he will stay in the red and black for =
reasons of
honour: One strong national team is better than two weak ones. Ermm =
II.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>This issue was brought into focus somewhat when my ticket had me =
seated
three rows from the front, on the wing, in the middle of the travelling =
Kosovar
ultras.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>They clapped politely when the Swedish national anthem was =
played b
there wasn't a boo in the house b they proudly waved their new blu
e-and-gold flag, they sat munching on black sunflower seeds until th e =
floor
was a carpet of shells like thousands of discarded flies wings, and they
showered abuse on the traitorous Bosnian Zlatan Ibrahimovic, playing for =
Sweden
b who was born and raised in Malmo, Sweden. Now call me radical, =
but I
reckon that makes him a bit more Swedish than a bloke who's spent his =
whole
life in Kosovo is Albanian.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>When the Kosovars, seated together in a block, started mocking =
the
Albanian Albanians for being lesser supporters, I was truly confused. =
Then the
Macedonian-Albanian mob, seated on the left, started chanting at all the =
other
Albanians: "We're sleeping with your sisters". Which, given =
they all
holiday at the same beaches, may occasionally be =
true.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Everyone wore the red and black of the Albanian flag, but you =
could
pick the Albanians actually from <st1:country-region =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Albania</st1:place></st1:country-region> b they were =
the ones
not spending the entire match telling everyone else how Albanian they =
were. And
there might be a lesson in that.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>The match itself was an entertaining nil-all draw. Twin Swedish =
threats
Henrik Larsson and Ibrahimovic failed to make an impact, while Albania, =
under
new Dutch coach Arie Haan, was well organised, worked hard and created =
many
chances.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>It also unveiled a new hero, a lightning-fast Lionel Messi =
lookalike,
20-year-old Jahmir Hyka (Hooh-kah), who regularly beat his man to put in
dangerous crosses down the left and had a laser-like shot at goal tipped
over20the bar.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>At the final whistle, the Swedes weren't happy, the keeper kick =
ing the
ball away in disgust. Which serves them right for stacking the defence =
all
night and presuming they'd do the business on the =
counter.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>For the Albanians b Albanian, Kosovar, Macedonian and =
Montenegrin
b the draw was a car horn-honking victory to be =
celebrated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>In the first match of the qualifying campaign, they'd earned one =
point,
but missed another.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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