Re: bc 250D scanner
Scott Van Aartsen <[email protected]> Sat, 29 Mar 2014 10:02:55 -0500
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--bcaec51ddd1f02854704f5c01dd5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable True enough. No 9600 baud systems, even if they're not rebanded. Scott V= an Aartsen [email protected] http://www.facebook.com/scott.vanaartsen= 712-348-3287 *=C9=D7=C8=D5=D3* On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Alex Llo= yd Gross <[email protected]> wrote: > > > The other think is the baud rate. It= will not do a 9600 baud system. > > > > -----Original Message----- > Fro= m: Scott Van Aartsen <[email protected]> > To: UnidenBC250D <UnidenBC2= [email protected]> > Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 10:15 am > Subject: Re: [Uni= denBC250D] bc 250D scanner > > > > Just a point of clarification -- it's no= t that the 250D can't decode the > digital voice, it's that it can't track = newer trunked systems because it > listens to the control channel to find o= ut where to go next and from there > tunes the radio to whatever frequency = that would be. But the FCC changed > the frequency assignments a while bac= k, so when the control channel tells > the 250D where to go, it goes to the= wrong place. Newer scanners are made > to handle the new assignments. > >= Some systems (like EDACS) it trunks fine. And it should decode most P25 = > digital voice if it's on a single (conventional) frequency. The problem = is > only with Motorola trunked systems, most of which have been rebanded. = > > Scott Van Aartsen > > [email protected] > http://www.facebook.com= /scott.vanaartsen > 712-348-3287 > *=C9=D7=C8=D5=D3* > > > On Fri, Mar 28= , 2014 at 7:54 PM, MCH <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Unless they are using = a rebanded (not refarmed as Alex said) system. >> The 250 does not support = rebranded systems. If its the Portsmouth TRS, RR >> says that has been rebr= anded, but none of the frequencies listed are in the >> frequency ranges af= fected. That is also listed as a pure analog system (no >> P25 at all), so = that might not be the one you're talking about. >> >> Joe M. >> >> On Mar 2= 8, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Robert Spear <robbie60941-/[email protected]> wrote: >> >> P= olice fire and rescue here have Motorola II smart net and p-25 card >> shou= ld be picking this up. >> >> >> >> On , Robert Spear <[email protected]= om> wrote: >> Im in Portsmouth VA. >> >> >> >> On Friday, March 28, 2= 014 10:31 AM, Alex Lloyd Gross <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> First are = your areas that you are trying to listen to refarmed? If >> the freq. are = refarmed, ( the scanner will not pick them up). >> >> If you arelistening t= o a trunking ageny, are they phase 3? If they >> are, the scanner will n= otpick them up. If the control channell is 9600 >> baud then you are out= of luck, 3600 baud, yes as long as it had not been >> refarmed. >> >> Wha= t area are you in? >> >> you may want to invest in a 436hp which is the to= p of the line portable >> uniden has. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message---= -- >> From: Robert Spear <robbie60941-/[email protected]> >> To: UnidenBC250D <Unide= [email protected]> >> Sent: Thu, Mar 27, 2014 11:15 pm >> Subject: [U= nidenBC250D] bc 250D scanner >> >> >> >> Just joined .Thanks for having me= .Ive had this BC 250D scanner for two >> weeks.Been programming and searchi= ng and I cant get jack out of it! >> Just some CB channels.No fire rescue,P= olice,or fire department nothing. >> And I have the p-25 card.Could someon= e mybe give me a hint as to what I may >> be going wrong ?I really would li= ke to see what this scanner can do.Thank >> you Robbie Portsmouth VA >> >> = >> >> >> >> >> > > > > --bcaec51ddd1f02854704f5c01dd5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> =20 <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div dir=3D"ltr">True enough. No 9600 baud systems, even if = they're not rebanded.<div><br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><b= r clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Scott Van Aartsen<div><br><div><a hre= f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">radioboy75-PkbjNfxxIASIwRZHo2/[email protected]= m</a></div> <div><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/scott.vanaartsen" target=3D"_blank"= >http://www.facebook.com/scott.vanaartsen</a><br></div><div>712-348-3287</d= iv></div><div><b style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;">=C9=D7= =C8=D5=D3</b><br> </div></div></div> <br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Alex Ll= oyd Gross <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"= _blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q= uote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div> <span> </span> <div> <div> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><font color=3D"black" face=3D"arial">T<font>he other think is the = baud rate. It will not do a 9600 baud system.</font> </font></p><div><font color=3D"black" face=3D"arial"> <br> </font></div><font color=3D"black" face=3D"arial"> <div> <br> </div> <div> <br> </div> <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica;">-----Original Me= ssage-----<br> From: Scott Van Aartsen <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" targe= t=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> To: UnidenBC250D <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br> Sent: Sat, Mar 29, 2014 10:15 am<br> Subject: Re: [UnidenBC250D] bc 250D scanner<br> <br> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> <br> <br> <div dir=3D"ltr">Just a point of clarification -- it's not that the 250= D can't decode the digital voice, it's that it can't track newe= r trunked systems because it listens to the control channel to find out whe= re to go next and from there tunes the radio to whatever frequency that wou= ld be. But the FCC changed the frequency assignments a while back, so= when the control channel tells the 250D where to go, it goes to the wrong = place. Newer scanners are made to handle the new assignments. <div> <br> </div> <div>Some systems (like EDACS) it trunks fine. And it should decode m= ost P25 digital voice if it's on a single (conventional) frequency. &nb= sp;The problem is only with Motorola trunked systems, most of which have be= en rebanded.</div> </div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"> <div> <div dir=3D"ltr">Scott Van Aartsen <div><br> <div><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">radioboy75= @hotmail.com</a></div> <div><a href=3D"http://www.facebook.com/scott.vanaartsen" target=3D"_blank"= >http://www.facebook.com/scott.vanaartsen</a><br> </div> <div><a href=3D"tel:712-348-3287" value=3D"+17123483287" target=3D"_blank">= 712-348-3287</a></div> </div> <div><b style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;">=C9=D7=C8=D5=D3</b><br> </div> </div> </div> <br> <br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 7:54 PM, MCH <span dir= =3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>= ></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"> <u></u> =20 <div> <span> </span> <div> =20=20 <div> =20=20=20=20 <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <div></div> <div>Unless they are using a rebanded (not refarmed as Alex said) system. T= he 250 does not support rebranded systems. If its the Portsmouth TRS, RR sa= ys that has been rebranded, but none of the frequencies listed are in the f= requency ranges affected. That is also listed as a pure analog system (no P= 25 at all), so that might not be the one you're talking about. <br= > <br> Joe M. </div> <div><br> On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Robert Spear <<a href=3D"mailto:robbie6094= [email protected]" target=3D"_blank">robbie60941-/[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helve= tica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;">Police fire and rescue here have Moto= rola II smart net and p-25 card should be picking this up. <br> <div><span><br> </span></div> <div> <br> <br> =20 <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luci= da Grande,sans-serif;font-size:14pt;">=20 <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luci= da Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;"> =20 <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial"> On , Robert Spear <<a href=3D"ma= ilto:robbie60941-/[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">robbie60941-/[email protected]</a>>= wrote:<br> </font> </div> =20=20 <div> <div> <div> <div style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helve= tica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;"> Im in Portsmouth VA.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"> <div><span></span></div> <div> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none">=20 <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luci= da Grande,sans-serif;font-size:14pt;"> =20 <div style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,Luci= da Grande,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;">=20 <div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> <font face=3D"Arial"> On Friday, March 28, 2014 10:31 AM,= Alex Lloyd Gross <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">ll= [email protected]</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </div> =20=20 <div> <div> <div> <span> </span> <div> =20=20 <div> =20=20=20=20 <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <div><font color=3D"black" face=3D"arial"><font>First are your areas = that you are trying to listen to refarmed? If the freq. are refarmed,= ( the scanner will not pick them up).<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> If you arelistening to a trunking ageny, are they phase 3? = ; If they are, the scanner will notpick them up. If the control chann= ell is 9600 baud then you are out of luck, 3600 baud, yes as lo= ng as it had not been refarmed.<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> What area are you in?<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> you may want to invest in a 436hp which is the top of the line portable uni= den has.<br clear=3D"none"> </font> </font></div> <div> <br clear=3D"none"> </div> <div> <br clear=3D"none"> </div> <div> <br clear=3D"none"> </div> <div> <div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica;">-----Original Me= ssage-----<br clear=3D"none"> From: Robert Spear <<a href=3D"mailto:robbie60941-/[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">robbie60941-/[email protected]</a>><br clear=3D"none"> To: UnidenBC250D <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target= =3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>><br clear=3D"none"> Sent: Thu, Mar 27, 2014 11:15 pm<br clear=3D"none"> Subject: [UnidenBC250D] bc 250D scanner<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <div> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:HelveticaNeue,Helvetica Neue,Helve= tica,Arial,Lucida Grande,sans-serif;"> <div>Just joined .Thanks for having me.Ive had this BC 250D scanner for two= weeks.Been programming and searching and I cant get jack out of it!<br cle= ar=3D"none"> Just some CB channels.No fire rescue,Police,or fire department nothin= g. And I have the p-25 card.Could someone mybe give me a hint as to what I = may be going wrong ?I really would like to see what this scanner can do.Tha= nk you Robbie Portsmouth VA<br clear=3D"none"> </div> </div> <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"> <div style=3D"color:white;"></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div> <div style=3D"color:#fff;"></div> </div> </div> <div></div> </div> <br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <br> <br> </div> </div> </div> </div> </div> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;"></div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <div></div> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div> </div> </blockquote></div> <br> </div> <br> <br> <div width=3D"1" style=3D"color:white;"></div> </div> </div> </div></font><p></p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"color:#fff;"></div> </div> =20=20 </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20 =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px= ;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1= px solid #EAEAEA " > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/UnidenBC250D/conversations/me= ssages/4779;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJwaDhrdm8zBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ3MTEzNDAEZ3Jw= c3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA3BG1zZ0lkAzQ3NzkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMzk2MTA= 5Mzk2?act=3Dreply&messageNum=3D4779">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20%= 5BUnidenBC250D%5D%20bc%20250D%20scanner" style=3D"text-decoration: none; co= lor: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%= 20%5BUnidenBC250D%5D%20bc%20250D%20scanner" style=3D"text-decoration: none;= color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/UnidenBC250D/con= versations/newtopic;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlMXEyNzc5BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzQ3MTEz= NDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM5NjEwOTM5Ng-= -" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #2D50FD; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA= ; " > <a href=3D"https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/= UnidenBC250D/conversations/topics/4769;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM0dXNmbDMxBF9TAzk3MzU5N= zE0BGdycElkAzQ3MTEzNDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDYzMTA3BG1zZ0lkAzQ3NzkEc2VjA2Z0cgRz= bGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMzk2MTA5Mzk2BHRwY0lkAzQ3Njk-" style=3D"text-decoration:= none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (9) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <div id=3D"ygrp-grfd" style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 12px; p= adding: 15px 0;"> =20=20=20=20=20=20 <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> If you have come here to find out about the 250D you have come to the= right place! 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