Re: Re: Would it work to use an external BFO for SSB???
Marty Toomajian <mtoomaj-tUwO18uD7CBWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:05:58 -0400
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--zfoEmAk874XDniysz1ZA1FR6wh7hKjPhQ0JDhG4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 30 year old Sony ICF 2001 died during a thunderstorm when static apparently zapped it (in early July). I tried to repair it by replacing the FET that is closest to the antenna. This failed. I bought a Grundig 4000A for about $70 from Amazon. I think they are being closed out. What I want is a Sony ICF 2010 in good condition - many have bad FETs in that antenna section that I tried to fix on my 2001. I know what you mean about radios. I have a small museum. When at Walgreen's on July 4th I noticed a close out on a SAME weather radio for $8.25 and though I have no need for it I now own it. I hope my 4000A works as well as the Sony did in the Adirondacks. I may get to test it soon. On Jul 28, 2011 11:42 AM, "Priscilla" <pnhks55-/[email protected]> wrote: > - Okay Peter - thank you - that's good information about the BFO probably working. I think the 1050 adjusts about that far - I'll check the instructions to see. > > - Marty - > Thank you for your suggestions about other radios. I have a redsun RP2100 which is pretty good for SW, HF. SSB is very hard to find on it, requiring manually changing frequency step by step through the ham bands. I actually have a ham radio (ICOM 730 transceiver) which of course is great for SSB but it's out for repairs for a few months. > > I should probably explain; I'm just a radio addict looking for one more fun radio and am always wanting something that will do more. You know that equation - the number of radios that one needs = N + 1, > where N = the number of radios you have now? That's me. I should get realistic and get radios which each specialize on one thing and do it well. But then I'm just not a practical person that way. > > I don't have any kind of scanner yet so I was looking at the IC R2 as a possible wider freq spectrum scannner. Since first posting here, I found out that if I want a scanner that will pick up law enforcement agencies in my area I would probably need to go up to something like the Pro 2096; so as to have the digital "25" something or other and trunking capabilities. Those darn things are expensive though. > > I'm finding it is hard to search for scanners using their capabilities as search criteria. If anyone knows other scanners besides the pro 2096, which get digital and multi-trunking, and sell used for less than $200, that would be very helpful! > > THANKS! > Priscilla > > --- In [email protected], Marty Toomajian <mtoomaj@...> wrote: >> >> I thought after reading the original post that a better answer for you would >> be a small SW AM/FM combo from Sangean, Grundig, Sony, CCrane or even one of >> the cheap Chinese models. >> >> The R2 is great but not convenient for SW. >> On Jun 6, 2011 6:30 AM, "Peter Solomon" <solomonpa@...> wrote: >> > >> > I do not think the Icom would find an ssb signal in search mode as there >> > is no carrier wave, but if you wanted to find an ssb station to listen >> > to I think you would be doing a manual search anyway. Not sure what the >> > IF freq of the icom is but if it is near 455kHz the 1050 could work. >> > The icom is not good on the HF bands unless you remove the aerial and >> > plug in a long wire antenna, and then it is about OK. Its great for VHF >> > or UHF though but of course there is almost no ssb transmissions on >> > those frequencies.. >> > >> > just had a look at the Icom manual and the 3rd IF freq is 450kHz, so the >> > 1050 could work if it will tune down to that frequency. >> > >> > >> > Peter >> > >> > >> > On 05/06/2011 03:03, Priscilla wrote: >> >> Has anyone tried using an extra Beat Frequency Oscillator such as the >> Ten-Tec kit 1050? It works for some AM SW radios without SSB capability >> built in. The BFO has a variable potentiometer for fine tuning to get the >> voices to sound human. It also has another circuit element for coarse >> tuning. >> >> >> >> I don't have an IC R2 but am looking at buying one. I'd like to be able >> to listen to SSB though. >> >> >> >> I'm wondering though, will the IC-R2 "stop" while scanning or searching, >> on a frequency on which SSB is being broadcast? >> >> >> >> Priscilla >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> Post message: [email protected] >> >> Subscribe: [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe: [email protected] >> >> >> >> Yahoo! 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I tried to repair it by replacing the<br> FET that is closest to the antenna. This failed.<br> <br> I bought a Grundig 4000A for about $70 from Amazon. I think they are being<br> closed out.<br> <br> What I want is a Sony ICF 2010 in good condition - many have bad FETs in<br> that antenna section that I tried to fix on my 2001.<br> <br> I know what you mean about radios. I have a small museum. When at<br> Walgreen's on July 4th I noticed a close out on a SAME weather radio for<br> $8.25 and though I have no need for it I now own it.<br> <br> I hope my 4000A works as well as the Sony did in the Adirondacks. I may get<br> to test it soon.<br> On Jul 28, 2011 11:42 AM, "Priscilla" <<a href="mailto:pnhks55%40yahoo.com">pnhks55-/[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > - Okay Peter - thank you - that's good information about the BFO probably<br> working. I think the 1050 adjusts about that far - I'll check the<br> instructions to see.<br> ><br> > - Marty -<br> > Thank you for your suggestions about other radios. I have a redsun RP2100<br> which is pretty good for SW, HF. SSB is very hard to find on it, requiring<br> manually changing frequency step by step through the ham bands. I actually<br> have a ham radio (ICOM 730 transceiver) which of course is great for SSB but<br> it's out for repairs for a few months.<br> ><br> > I should probably explain; I'm just a radio addict looking for one more<br> fun radio and am always wanting something that will do more. You know that<br> equation - the number of radios that one needs = N + 1,<br> > where N = the number of radios you have now? That's me. I should get<br> realistic and get radios which each specialize on one thing and do it well.<br> But then I'm just not a practical person that way.<br> ><br> > I don't have any kind of scanner yet so I was looking at the IC R2 as a<br> possible wider freq spectrum scannner. Since first posting here, I found out<br> that if I want a scanner that will pick up law enforcement agencies in my<br> area I would probably need to go up to something like the Pro 2096; so as to<br> have the digital "25" something or other and trunking capabilities. Those<br> darn things are expensive though.<br> ><br> > I'm finding it is hard to search for scanners using their capabilities as<br> search criteria. If anyone knows other scanners besides the pro 2096, which<br> get digital and multi-trunking, and sell used for less than $200, that would<br> be very helpful!<br> ><br> > THANKS!<br> > Priscilla<br> ><br> > --- In <a href="mailto:icomr2%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a>, Marty Toomajian <mtoomaj@...> wrote:<br> >><br> >> I thought after reading the original post that a better answer for you<br> would<br> >> be a small SW AM/FM combo from Sangean, Grundig, Sony, CCrane or even one<br> of<br> >> the cheap Chinese models.<br> >><br> >> The R2 is great but not convenient for SW.<br> >> On Jun 6, 2011 6:30 AM, "Peter Solomon" <solomonpa@...> wrote:<br> >> ><br> >> > I do not think the Icom would find an ssb signal in search mode as<br> there<br> >> > is no carrier wave, but if you wanted to find an ssb station to listen<br> >> > to I think you would be doing a manual search anyway. Not sure what the<br> >> > IF freq of the icom is but if it is near 455kHz the 1050 could work.<br> >> > The icom is not good on the HF bands unless you remove the aerial and<br> >> > plug in a long wire antenna, and then it is about OK. Its great for VHF<br> >> > or UHF though but of course there is almost no ssb transmissions on<br> >> > those frequencies..<br> >> ><br> >> > just had a look at the Icom manual and the 3rd IF freq is 450kHz, so<br> the<br> >> > 1050 could work if it will tune down to that frequency.<br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> > Peter<br> >> ><br> >> ><br> >> > On 05/06/2011 03:03, Priscilla wrote:<br> >> >> Has anyone tried using an extra Beat Frequency Oscillator such as the<br> >> Ten-Tec kit 1050? It works for some AM SW radios without SSB capability<br> >> built in. The BFO has a variable potentiometer for fine tuning to get the<br> >> voices to sound human. It also has another circuit element for coarse<br> >> tuning.<br> >> >><br> >> >> I don't have an IC R2 but am looking at buying one. I'd like to be<br> able<br> >> to listen to SSB though.<br> >> >><br> >> >> I'm wondering though, will the IC-R2 "stop" while scanning or<br> searching,<br> >> on a frequency on which SSB is being broadcast?<br> >> >><br> >> >> Priscilla<br> >> >><br> >> >><br> >> >><br> >> >> ------------------------------------<br> >> >><br> >> >> Post message: <a href="mailto:icomr2%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br> >> >> Subscribe: <a href="mailto:icomr2-subscribe%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br> >> >> Unsubscribe: <a href="mailto:icomr2-unsubscribe%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a><br> >> >><br> >> >> Yahoo! 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