Re: DESeq: Hypothesis testing in multifactor design
Michael Love <[email protected]>
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Hi Yanzhu, On Aug 20, 2014 3:59 PM, "Yanzhu Lin" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Mike, > > I am using DESeq2 package for my project now, and I have some questions regarding to this pacakge. > > Please let me briefly introduce some background information about my project. I have three factors: A with 16 levels, B with 2 levels and C with 3 levels, in total 16*2*3=96 groups. There are 8 biosamples for each group, hence 96*8=768 biosamples in total. Due to some issues, we lost some replicates for some groups, which ends up 726 biosamples, hence it is unbalance design. > > Our purpose are to test the main effects of three factor: A, B and C, the two-way interaction: A:B, A:C and B:C, and the three-way interaction term: A:B:C. For example, I will compare full model: ~A+B+C with reduce model: ~A+B to test factor C, and so on for other two main effects. For testing three-way interaction A:B:C, I will compare full model: ~A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C+A:B:C and reduced model ~A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C. Then come my questions. > > > I have different full models for testing main effects, two-way interaction and three-way interaction term. Will the dispersion estimation affected by my full model? Can I specify the full model when I use nbinomLRT()? No, you should not change the design in between, i.e. don't use a different design for dispersion estimation and the full model in the LRT. Mike > In other words, can I use estimateDispersion() only once and fit nbinomLRT with different full models as below: > > > dds<-DESeqDataSetFromMatrix(countData=countdata,colData=coldata,design=~A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C+A:B:C) > > ### normalization > dds=estimateSizeFactors(dds) > > ### dispersion estimation: > dds=estimateDispersions(dds) > > ###Test three-way interaction term. > dds<-nbinomLRT(dds,reduced=~A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C) > ###Test main effect of factor A: > dds<-nbinomLRT(dds,full=~A+B+C, reduced=~B+C) > ###Test main effect of factor B: > dds<-nbinomLRT(dds,full=~A+B+C, reduced=~A+C) > > ###Test main effect of factor C: > dds<-nbinomLRT(dds,full=~A+B+C, reduced=~A+B) > > > Thanks, > > > Yanzhu > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Michael Love <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> hi Yanzhu, >> >> Note that we recommend users switch to using DESeq2, which also has >> the likelihood ratio test you are using, and is faster and more >> sensitive. >> >> The pipeline would look like: >> >> DESeq(dds, test="LRT", reduced=~ A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C) >> >> for your first example. >> >> For your question, the terms of the reduced model should be contained >> within the full model. Still there are a number of models which >> satisfy this requirement, e.g. for testing B:C, you could use >> A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C and A+B+C+A:B+A:C as full and reduced respectively. >> Or you could use A+B+C+B:C and A+B+C. The importance of these other >> interaction terms depends on context, whether they are very >> explanatory or not. >> >> Mike >> >> On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:21 AM, yanzhu [guest] <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Dear Community, >> > >> > I have a question about the hypothesis testing of the two-way interaction terms in a multifactor design which includes three factors: A, B and C. >> > >> > When I tested the three-way interaction I used the full and reduced models as below for nbinomGLMTest(): >> > Full: count ~ A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C+A:B:C >> > Reduced: count ~ A+B+C+A:B+A:C+B:C >> > >> > Now comes my question, when I want to test the effect of two-way interaction terms, i.e., A:B, A:C or B:C, what should be my full and reduced models? For example, when I want to the test the effect of A:B, what should be my full and reduced models for nbinomGLMTest() using DESeq pacakge? >> > >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > >> > >> > Yanzhu >> > >> > >> > -- output of sessionInfo(): >> > >> > sessionInfo() >> > R version 3.1.0 (2014-04-10) >> > Platform: x86_64-w64-mingw32/x64 (64-bit) >> > >> > locale: >> > [1] LC_COLLATE=English_United States.1252 LC_CTYPE=English_United States.1252 LC_MONETARY=English_United States.1252 >> > [4] LC_NUMERIC=C LC_TIME=English_United States.1252 >> > >> > attached base packages: >> > [1] parallel stats graphics grDevices utils datasets methods base >> > >> > other attached packages: >> > [1] DESeq_1.16.0 lattice_0.20-29 locfit_1.5-9.1 Biobase_2.24.0 BiocGenerics_0.10.0 edgeR_3.6.1 limma_3.20.1 >> > >> > loaded via a namespace (and not attached): >> > [1] annotate_1.42.0 AnnotationDbi_1.26.0 DBI_0.2-7 genefilter_1.46.0 geneplotter_1.42.0 GenomeInfoDb_1.0.2 >> > [7] grid_3.1.0 IRanges_1.22.6 MASS_7.3-31 RColorBrewer_1.0-5 RSQLite_0.11.4 splines_3.1.0 >> > [13] stats4_3.1.0 survival_2.37-7 tools_3.1.0 XML_3.98-1.1 xtable_1.7-3 >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Sent via the guest posting facility at bioconductor.org. >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bioconductor mailing list >> > [email protected] >> > https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor >> > Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ Bioconductor mailing list [email protected] https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor