Re: normalization and batch correction across multiple project
Adaikalavan Ramasamy <[email protected]> Tue, 26 Aug 2014 16:17:05 +0100
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Dear all, I had no response to this email that I sent last week. If anyone has any input, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. Regards, Adai On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Adaikalavan Ramasamy < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear all, > > I would like to appeal to the collective wisdom in this group on how best > to solve this problem of normalization and batch correction. > > We are a service unit for an academic institute and we run several > projects simultaneously. We use Illumina HT12-v4 microarrays which can > take up to 12 different samples per chip. As we QC the data from one > project, the RNA from failed samples can be repeated to include into chips > from another project (rather than running partial chips to avoid wastage). > Sometimes we include samples from other projects also. Here is a simple > illustration > > Chip No ScanDate Contents > 1 1st July *12 samples from project A* > 2 1st July *8 samples from project A* + 4 from > project B > 3 1st August 12 samples from Project B > 4 1st August *1 sample from Project A* + 5 samples > from B + 6 from project C > ... > > What is the best way to prepare the final data for *project A*? One > option is to do the following: > > 1. Pool chips 1, 2 and 4 together. > 2. Remove failed samples > 3. Remove samples from other projects. > 4. Normalize using NEQC from limma > 5. Correct for scan date using COMBAT from sva. > > The other option we considered is to omit step 3 (i.e. use other samples > for normalization and COMBAT) and subset at the end. > > I feel this second option allows for better estimation of batch effects > (especially in chip 4). However, sometimes project A and B can be quite > different (e.g. samples derived from different tissues) which might mess up > the normalization especially if we want to compare project A to B directly. We > also considered nec() followed by normalizeBetweenArrays with "Tquantile" > but I felt it was too complicated. Anything else to try? > > Thank you. > > -- > > Adaikalavan Ramasamy > > Senior Leadership Fellow in Bioinformatics > > Head of the Transcriptomics Core Facility > > > > Email: [email protected] > > Office: 01865 287 710 > > Mob: 07906 308 465 > > http://www.jenner.ac.uk/transcriptomics-facility > > > > > > > [[alternative HTML version deleted]] _______________________________________________ Bioconductor mailing list [email protected] https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor