Re: Interspecies differential expression of orthologs with Edger
assaf www <[email protected]> Fri, 5 Sep 2014 23:22:28 +0300
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Thanks Gordon, To summarize the results I got on the cross-species data, after embedding the length-effect to the GLM offset matrix, as in the code you sent, please see the attached MA plot: 1) for >5 and <-5 log fold change, genes' logFC is positively correlated with mean log CPM, something I haven’t seen before in Edger standard runs. 2) most genes with fold change around > 1.3, or < -1.3, are significant, which looks to me too “liberal”. Please note that each group contains 6 true biological replicates (variance within each group is large) . The first problem worries me most, any idea is very welcomed. Many thanks, Assaf On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 2:08 AM, Gordon K Smyth <smyth-QpO9qclcJEu6c6uEtOJ/[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2 Sep 2014, assaf www wrote: > > Does Edger DE analysis is built on the assumption that most genes are not >> differentially expressed, and that only a small portion of them do (say >> <20%) ? >> > > Only the calcNormFactors() step of edgeR makes any assumption of this > sort. calcNormFactors assumes that either that most genes are not DE or > that the DE is reasonably symmetric. > > I mean, in cross-species studies, or when comparing different tissues of >> the same organism, if this assumption doesn't hold, should it be a serious >> concern ? >> > > In a cross-species comparison there will be many DE genes, but some will > be up and some will be down. The DE will not be all in one direction, I > would guess that normalization will not be a serious concern. > > Of all the concerns with cross-species comparisons, this seems to me to be > far from the most serious. > > Best wishes > Gordon > > ______________________________________________________________________ > The information in this email is confidential and intended solely for the > addressee. > You must not disclose, forward, print or use it without the permission of > the sender. > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ Bioconductor mailing list [email protected] https://stat.ethz.ch/mailman/listinfo/bioconductor Search the archives: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.biology.informatics.conductor
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