Re: Fwd: Re: Naval "Y" station at Southwold?

Martin Postranecky <m.postranecky-pJrKddK8Xz/[email protected]> Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:15:32 +0100
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OK - fwding again without the attachments...
If anybody wishes to receive these pictures, please
let me know....
Cheers,
Martin


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On 12/08/2017 22:07, Martin Postranecky wrote :
> ---------------------------------------------
> Sometimes you find much more than you expected...
> Especially as I wasn't really into 'Y' stations !!  (-;
> 
> I hope that it may be of interest to some on this
> forum.
> 
> Cheers,
> Martin
> 
> On 09/08/2017 13:54, John Harper wrote :
> ----------------------------------------
>  > Martin
>  > I suggest that you pass this on to the Historical Accuracy Group., 
> headed
>  > by Mick Smith. There is somebody in this group who has a great deal of
>  > knowledge on such matters but without his permission I do not wish to 
> give
>  > you his details.
>  > Best regards
> 
>  > On 8 August 2017 at 16:12, Martin Evans <mhe1000-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/[email protected]> wrote :
>  > -------------------------------------------------------------------
>  >> I am forwarding this query about intercept stations at Southwold, 
> Suffolk,
>  >> UK. It was posted on the marine history list today. Any info?
>  >>
>  >> Martin H Evans
> 
> 
>  >> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>  >> Subject: Y Station Southwold
>  >> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:11:26 -0400
>  >> From: Stuart Rayner <[email protected]>
>  >> Reply-To: Marine History Information Exchange Group <
>  >> [email protected]>
>  >> To: [email protected]
>  >>
>  >> There was a navy Y-station(s) located at Southwold (Y as in wireless
>  >> intercept) during the second world war as part of the intelligence
>  >> gathering network, including Bletchley Park. From photographs of the
>  >> station on the Imperial War Museum website, the station location has 
> been
>  >> found where surprisingly the main two huts still stand, although 
> some of
>  >> the outlying facilities have subsequently fallen into the sea. There is
>  >> also a recording on YouTube of an intercept recording taken at the 
> station.
>  >> The huts are known locally as the Navy huts although no one knew 
> what they
>  >> were used for.
>  >>
>  >> In gathering information, it has come to light that there may have 
> been 2
>  >> stations at Southwold as another location is given as Gun Hill in
>  >> Southwold, which is partially confirmed by one of the Imperial War 
> Museum
>  >> photographs. The two locations would therefore be separated by 1-2 
> miles.
>  >>
>  >> My questions are: where there two separate locations for the station,
>  >> presumably intercepting different data? What were the stations
>  >> intercepting? i.e was it direction finding, data gathering or any 
> other;
>  >> and finally when was the station set up? From local information, the 
> Gun
>  >> Hill one may have been set up as early as 1940.
>  >>
>  >> I realise that very little information is available on these secret
>  >> stations, but thought that someone may know a little more than I 
> have been
>  >> able to dig out.
>  >>
>  >> Stuart
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: Naval "Y" station at Southwold?
> Date:     Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:23:27 +0100
> From:     Vince Edwards <[email protected]>
> To:     [email protected]
> 
> Hi Roger
> 
> No problem at all, I'm happy to share what info I have.. although its
> not a lot !
> 
> The Southwold Y station was actually at Easton Bavents, about a mile
> north of the town. I originally learned of its existence from photos
> held by the Imperial War Museum, and as I visit Southwold regularly I
> decided to see if I could locate it.  This year with the help of some
> like-minded friends, a few local enquiries identified a house that
> appears in the photos, and that led me to the actual location.
> 
> Due to coastal erosion most of the site that is visible in the attached
> photos has now gone. The ditch that runs almost N-S in the photos is
> roughly where the cliff edge is now, and the white house at the north
> end of the site was demolished fairly recently, before it fell into the
> sea. All that remains now are the two Watchroom huts at  52°20'31.67"N
> 1°41'13.17"E
> 
> The photos are fascinating. In one room I can see an AR88 and a Marconi
> CR100 (or more likely the Admiralty version B28), and in the other there
> are what I think are Hallicrafters receivers; I'm not familiar with
> these, but I assume they were VHF. I know that the German 'E' boats used
> VHF R/T so it would make sense for a coastal Y station to include it.
> 
> Out in the field were a couple of 'wigwams' that I've not see before,
> but look like they could be for VHF DF? There was also the familiar
> octagonal DF structure that I have seen at other sites such as Beeston
> near Sheringham. If Martin has  info on any of these I would be very
> interested to receive it.
> 
> Having visited the site I've done my best to show where each structure
> stood. Google Earth has been very useful here, as it has 1940s aerial
> photos of much of the east and south coast. I've attached the IWM photos
> and the two I have created using Google Earth. I have some photos of the
> huts taken in June, but don't have access to them right now.
> 
> Please feel free to pass my contact details onto Martin. He's very
> welcome to get in touch either by mail or telephone 01733 331211,
> evenings or weekends.
> 
> Vince Edwards G8NGZ
> 
> 
> On 10/08/2017 16:20, Roger Basford wrote :
> ------------------------------------------
>> Hello Vince,
>>
>> I hope you will excuse me contacting you "out of the blue" but I was 
>> given your name by Ian Perry, G7UVV. I have recently been asked if I 
>> knew anything about a WW2 naval "Y" intercept station at Southwold. I 
>> posted a request for info on the VMARS-Member Yahoo group yesterday 
>> and Ian contacted me to say you have been researching the subject?
>>
>> The person  who asked me about the station is Martin Postranecky, who 
>> I have been talking to about RAF "Squeaker" beacons. These were used 
>> to mark the proximity of British balloon barrages, so that our 
>> aircraft would get a warning if they strayed too close to the barrage. 
>> I believe Martin isn't involved in Y stations history but has been 
>> asked by a colleague on another forum for help and Martin asked me, 
>> hence I got involved!
>>
>> I live near Beccles and so visit Southwold and Walberswick often, 
>> especially the Adnams shop, so would be interested in the station and 
>> who operated it. I do have the "Defence of Britain" overlay for Google 
>> Earth, which shows fortifications around the UK. There are tons of 
>> sites around Southwold but no radio sites that I can see.
>>
>> Again, excuse me contacting you direct, your name and details I got 
>> from the VMARS membership list which arrived today.
>>
>> 73
>> Roger Basford/G3VKM


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