Re: Fwd: Re: Naval "Y" station at Southwold?
Martin Postranecky <m.postranecky-pJrKddK8Xz/[email protected]> Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:15:32 +0100
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OK - fwding again without the attachments... If anybody wishes to receive these pictures, please let me know.... Cheers, Martin On 12/08/2017 22:07, Kansas State University LISTSERV Server (16.0) wrote : ------- > Your posting to the BLETCHLEYPARK list has been rejected because it contains an > attachment of type 'IMAGE/JPEG'. The BLETCHLEYPARK list has been configured to > reject such attachments. Please contact the list owner at > BLETCHLEYPARK-request-0lvw86wZMd/[email protected] for more information. On 12/08/2017 22:07, Martin Postranecky wrote : > --------------------------------------------- > Sometimes you find much more than you expected... > Especially as I wasn't really into 'Y' stations !! (-; > > I hope that it may be of interest to some on this > forum. > > Cheers, > Martin > > On 09/08/2017 13:54, John Harper wrote : > ---------------------------------------- > > Martin > > I suggest that you pass this on to the Historical Accuracy Group., > headed > > by Mick Smith. There is somebody in this group who has a great deal of > > knowledge on such matters but without his permission I do not wish to > give > > you his details. > > Best regards > > > On 8 August 2017 at 16:12, Martin Evans <mhe1000-KWPb1pKIrIJaa/[email protected]> wrote : > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> I am forwarding this query about intercept stations at Southwold, > Suffolk, > >> UK. It was posted on the marine history list today. Any info? > >> > >> Martin H Evans > > > >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- > >> Subject: Y Station Southwold > >> Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 10:11:26 -0400 > >> From: Stuart Rayner <[email protected]> > >> Reply-To: Marine History Information Exchange Group < > >> [email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> > >> There was a navy Y-station(s) located at Southwold (Y as in wireless > >> intercept) during the second world war as part of the intelligence > >> gathering network, including Bletchley Park. From photographs of the > >> station on the Imperial War Museum website, the station location has > been > >> found where surprisingly the main two huts still stand, although > some of > >> the outlying facilities have subsequently fallen into the sea. There is > >> also a recording on YouTube of an intercept recording taken at the > station. > >> The huts are known locally as the Navy huts although no one knew > what they > >> were used for. > >> > >> In gathering information, it has come to light that there may have > been 2 > >> stations at Southwold as another location is given as Gun Hill in > >> Southwold, which is partially confirmed by one of the Imperial War > Museum > >> photographs. The two locations would therefore be separated by 1-2 > miles. > >> > >> My questions are: where there two separate locations for the station, > >> presumably intercepting different data? What were the stations > >> intercepting? i.e was it direction finding, data gathering or any > other; > >> and finally when was the station set up? From local information, the > Gun > >> Hill one may have been set up as early as 1940. > >> > >> I realise that very little information is available on these secret > >> stations, but thought that someone may know a little more than I > have been > >> able to dig out. > >> > >> Stuart > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: Naval "Y" station at Southwold? > Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2017 10:23:27 +0100 > From: Vince Edwards <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > > Hi Roger > > No problem at all, I'm happy to share what info I have.. although its > not a lot ! > > The Southwold Y station was actually at Easton Bavents, about a mile > north of the town. I originally learned of its existence from photos > held by the Imperial War Museum, and as I visit Southwold regularly I > decided to see if I could locate it. This year with the help of some > like-minded friends, a few local enquiries identified a house that > appears in the photos, and that led me to the actual location. > > Due to coastal erosion most of the site that is visible in the attached > photos has now gone. The ditch that runs almost N-S in the photos is > roughly where the cliff edge is now, and the white house at the north > end of the site was demolished fairly recently, before it fell into the > sea. All that remains now are the two Watchroom huts at 52°20'31.67"N > 1°41'13.17"E > > The photos are fascinating. In one room I can see an AR88 and a Marconi > CR100 (or more likely the Admiralty version B28), and in the other there > are what I think are Hallicrafters receivers; I'm not familiar with > these, but I assume they were VHF. I know that the German 'E' boats used > VHF R/T so it would make sense for a coastal Y station to include it. > > Out in the field were a couple of 'wigwams' that I've not see before, > but look like they could be for VHF DF? There was also the familiar > octagonal DF structure that I have seen at other sites such as Beeston > near Sheringham. If Martin has info on any of these I would be very > interested to receive it. > > Having visited the site I've done my best to show where each structure > stood. Google Earth has been very useful here, as it has 1940s aerial > photos of much of the east and south coast. I've attached the IWM photos > and the two I have created using Google Earth. I have some photos of the > huts taken in June, but don't have access to them right now. > > Please feel free to pass my contact details onto Martin. He's very > welcome to get in touch either by mail or telephone 01733 331211, > evenings or weekends. > > Vince Edwards G8NGZ > > > On 10/08/2017 16:20, Roger Basford wrote : > ------------------------------------------ >> Hello Vince, >> >> I hope you will excuse me contacting you "out of the blue" but I was >> given your name by Ian Perry, G7UVV. I have recently been asked if I >> knew anything about a WW2 naval "Y" intercept station at Southwold. I >> posted a request for info on the VMARS-Member Yahoo group yesterday >> and Ian contacted me to say you have been researching the subject? >> >> The person who asked me about the station is Martin Postranecky, who >> I have been talking to about RAF "Squeaker" beacons. These were used >> to mark the proximity of British balloon barrages, so that our >> aircraft would get a warning if they strayed too close to the barrage. >> I believe Martin isn't involved in Y stations history but has been >> asked by a colleague on another forum for help and Martin asked me, >> hence I got involved! >> >> I live near Beccles and so visit Southwold and Walberswick often, >> especially the Adnams shop, so would be interested in the station and >> who operated it. I do have the "Defence of Britain" overlay for Google >> Earth, which shows fortifications around the UK. There are tons of >> sites around Southwold but no radio sites that I can see. >> >> Again, excuse me contacting you direct, your name and details I got >> from the VMARS membership list which arrived today. >> >> 73 >> Roger Basford/G3VKM -- \--=-// ( o^o ) ---------------------------------------oOOO------(_)---OOOo----- | Martin Postranecky Phone : [00-44]-(0)208-886 0858 | | ex-Senior Experimental Officer Phone : [00-44]-(0)206-226 8466 | | UNIVERSITY COLLEGE LONDON | | E-Mail : m.postranecky-hclig2XLE9Zaa/[email protected]| ---------------------------------------------ooOo-----oOo-------