Re: [dinosaur] Psittacosaurus amitabha, new species from Cretaceous Ondai Sayr Locality, Mongolia
Tim Williams <[email protected]>
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A specimen-level phylogenetic analysis of _Psittacosaurus_ could also be helpful. It'd be a huge amount of work, but would shed light on whether or not there are well-supported clades within _Psittacosaurus_ (as currently defined) that could provide the foundation for new genera. However, despite being a highly speciose genus, there is no evidence that _Psittacosaurus_ is anything other than monophyletic. IIRC, no phylogenetic analysis has ever found the genus _Psittacosaurus_ (including _Hongshanosaurus_) to be paraphyletic relative to neoceratopsians. So although highly speciose, _Psittacosaurus_ is not problematic. The issue with _Iguanodon_ was that the genus was founded on a questionable type, as well as being para- or polyphyletic (at least for some species that had been assigned to _Iguanodon_). There are speciose dinosaur genera in far greater need of an overhaul than _Psittacosaurus_. _Mamenchisaurus_ and _Omeisaurus_ come to mind - some species may actually belong in other mamenchisaurid genera (like _Anhuilong_ or _Yuanmousaurus_), or deserve their own genera (like a revived _Zigongosaurus_). On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 6:43 AM Paul P <[email protected]> wrote: > > Genus vs. species is sometimes arbitrary, but not always. Clustering algorithms can help to determine which it should (probably) be. Morphometrics, cladistics, etc. > > > On Friday, July 26, 2019, 2:03:40 PM UTC, David Marjanovic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > [...] Psittacosaurus amitabha is resolved as the most basal member of the genus Psittacosaurus in our phylogenetic analysis. This taxon expands our knowledge of the already-speciose genus Psittacosaurus > > These two sentences are arbitrary; nothing prevented the authors from naming a new genus for this species. But apparently psittacosaurid genera are like Highlanders, there can be only one...