Re: [dinosaur] *Heracles inexpectatus*, giant parrot from the Miocene of NZ
Ben Creisler <[email protected]>
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Ben Creisler [email protected] I checked the generic name when I saw it to be sure. The most up-to-date source for names of animals (genus and species) is this link: INDEX TO ORGANISM NAMES (ION) https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__organismnames.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=CFYOYFRDfsswLWOoKZxeRSAOHMQzMuvBDc6U6eWW6r8&s=MzbuX8_cmAH5B2VJr1fGQ5oP3YzgBT45GOtpGmyi4Cg&e= Even the Latin form Hercules has not be used as a generic name! (lots of species, though) <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Dwebmail&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=CFYOYFRDfsswLWOoKZxeRSAOHMQzMuvBDc6U6eWW6r8&s=DNZhbGWqH2-ulEsuUJ2JW613zmH7Y2GoKlpZchkemC0&e= > Virus-free. www.avg.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.avg.com_email-2Dsignature-3Futm-5Fmedium-3Demail-26utm-5Fsource-3Dlink-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dsig-2Demail-26utm-5Fcontent-3Dwebmail&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=CFYOYFRDfsswLWOoKZxeRSAOHMQzMuvBDc6U6eWW6r8&s=DNZhbGWqH2-ulEsuUJ2JW613zmH7Y2GoKlpZchkemC0&e= > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:26 AM Thomas Richard Holtz <[email protected]> wrote: > Honestly aghast that there isn't a "Heracles" genus name already > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:41 PM David Marjanovic <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Trevor H. Worthy, Suzanne J. Hand, Michael Archer, R. Paul Scofield & >> Vanesa L. De Pietri >> Evidence for a giant parrot from the Early Miocene of New Zealand >> Biology Letters, published today >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__royalsocietypublishing.org_doi_10.1098_rsbl.2019.0467&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=CFYOYFRDfsswLWOoKZxeRSAOHMQzMuvBDc6U6eWW6r8&s=Hx_5cRxrFnPL560ZJq-aOYPB9cTRiaoFkrKTlsnY5zQ&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__royalsocietypublishing.org_doi_10.1098_rsbl.2019.0467&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=zW8MD1hCJ4F16Mm_t4OUvCjYw3620Ly4QdLdXi7b1b8&s=U2HI_hYuRJYv5TiVcwRrGTRSI-CEON6puAvIEwKHohY&e=> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__doi.org_10.1098_rsbl.2019.0467&d=DwIFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=CFYOYFRDfsswLWOoKZxeRSAOHMQzMuvBDc6U6eWW6r8&s=1Rubf7vTV24JYDXhN1zYhJL1d0227gvUoXXByYz-kWQ&e= >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__doi.org_10.1098_rsbl.2019.0467&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=zW8MD1hCJ4F16Mm_t4OUvCjYw3620Ly4QdLdXi7b1b8&s=Z_i1xcV7YppEGSrii4G0oG90mRT3fDsa98bYVsl5G8w&e=> >> >> Abstract: >> >> Insular avifaunas have repeatedly spawned evolutionary novelties in the >> form of unusually large, often flightless species. We report fossils from >> the Early Miocene St Bathans Fauna of New Zealand that attests to the >> former existence of a giant psittaciform, which is described as a new genus >> and species. The fossils are two incomplete tibiotarsi from a bird with an >> estimated mass of 7 kg, double that of the heaviest known parrot, the >> kakapo *Strigops habroptila*. These psittaciform fossils show that >> parrots join the growing group of avian taxa prone to giantism in insular >> species, currently restricted to palaeognaths, anatids, sylviornithids, >> columbids, aptornithids, ciconiids, tytonids, falconids and accipitrids. >> >> Apparently a meter tall. No way to tell if it was able to fly. >> >> At least one news report has claimed this was a predator, "possibly" >> feeding on smaller parrots. Naturally, as there are just "two incomplete >> tibiotarsi" known, there's not a word of this in the paper. Perhaps the >> myth originated as a misunderstanding of this part: >> >> *Etymology*: The nestorid *Nelepsittacus* from the St Bathans Fauna was >> named after Neleus. This much larger psittaciform is named after the Greek >> Heracles, who in Latin was known as Hercules, and who killed Neleus and his >> sons, except for Nestor. Genus gender masculine. The specific epithet >> denotes the unexpected nature of this find. >> >> Indeed, Nestor, literally "the one who comes home safe", survives to this >> day in New Zealand – *Nestor notabilis* is the kea. >> >> I should mention that it's *Strigops habroptilus*: ops is feminine in >> the original Greek, but ICZN Art. 30.1.4.3 >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__code.iczn.org_formation-2Dand-2Dtreatment-2Dof-2Dnames_article-2D30-2Dgender-2Dof-2Dgenus-2Dgroup-2Dnames_-23art-2D30-2D1&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=zW8MD1hCJ4F16Mm_t4OUvCjYw3620Ly4QdLdXi7b1b8&s=ZBZTeuGw2XC_q807CFrmwP3aYczR5rZDP_cS3c62XCE&e=> >> states that "A compound genus-group name ending in -ops is to be treated as >> masculine, regardless of its derivation or of its treatment by its author." >> That's why we get to keep *Triceratops horridus* and *T. prorsus*, too. >> >> (Note that the Code is no longer hosted by nhm.ac.uk >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__nhm.ac.uk&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=mG1a8w_qRkAtcHJ92aoPAbuyKzn2TS6QRRdymg_U2vs&s=Sr_eGV4CysPldfHATjOlXTEEYVTAiE-_68LrKKnjxRM&e=>, >> but has moved to iczn.org >> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__iczn.org&d=DwMFaQ&c=clK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&r=Ry_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&m=mG1a8w_qRkAtcHJ92aoPAbuyKzn2TS6QRRdymg_U2vs&s=F-zNQZ53oJzVY_bRzUINR7BWrqILPqazlS8zY_mU8uE&e=> >> .) >> > > > -- > > Thomas R. 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