Re: [dinosaur] Parirau, new pterosaur from Late Cretaceous of New Zealand (free pdf)

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The problem I have with this is that it creates unnecessary taxonomic=0Acon=
fusion. Despite being a nomen nudum, there is still a chance that=0Asubsequ=
ent authors may mistakenly treat it as valid (what happened with=0AMalkani'=
s and Ulansky's taxa comes to mind). Another thing to note is that=0Adespit=
e allegedly being registered on ZooBank, I could find no results for=0Athis=
 taxon.=0A=0AOn Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 5:32 PM Tyler Greenfield <tgreenfield9=
[email protected]>=0Awrote:=0A=0A> The problem I have with this is that it creat=
es unnecessary taxonomic=0A> confusion. Despite being a nomen nudum, there =
is still a chance that=0A> subsequent authors may mistakenly treat it as va=
lid (what happened with=0A> Malkani's and Ulansky's taxa comes to mind). An=
other thing to note is that=0A> despite allegedly being registered on ZooBa=
nk, I could find no results for=0A> this taxon.=0A>=0A> On Sat, Dec 21, 201=
9 at 5:10 PM Mike Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:=0A>=0A>> I'm pretty r=
elaxed about this. No, the ICZN doesn't recognise it. But a=0A>> preprint i=
s a great placeholder until the actual paper comes out. If Bill=0A>> Parker=
 had done something similar with *Heliocanthus*, it's unlikely=0A>> Lucas e=
t al. would have scooped his taxon with their name *=0A>> Rioarribasuchus.*=
=0A>>=0A>> -- Mike.=0A>>=0A>>=0A>> On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 23:04, <tgreenfie=
[email protected]> wrote:=0A>>=0A>>> Since this is a preprint on a website ma=
de for hosting manuscripts and=0A>>> not published in a peer-reviewed journ=
al, I don=E2=80=99t think this constitutes a=0A>>> valid naming. The author=
 should have known better than to attempt to name a=0A>>> new taxon in a pr=
eprint.=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>> On Dec 21, 2019, at 4:42 PM, Ben Creisler <bcreis=
[email protected]> wrote:=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>>> Ben Creisler=0A>>> bcreisler@gmail.=
com=0A>>>=0A>>> A new paper with free pdf:=0A>>>=0A>>> Parirau ataroa gen. =
et sp. nov.=0A>>>=0A>>> Carlos Albuquerque (2019)=0A>>> A Late Cretaceous L=
onchodectid?=0A>>> bioRxiv (preprint)=0A>>> doi: https://urldefense.proofpo=
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e been extensively described, with only a few tentative claims that it=0A>>=
> represents an azhdarchid. Here, I re-examine the specimen and compare it =
to=0A>>> other pterodactyloid taxa, noting peculiar features such as its pl=
ug-like=0A>>> (obdurate) ulnar end. Christened Parirau ataroa, this taxon i=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">The problem I have with this is that it creates unnecessar=
y taxonomic confusion. Despite being a nomen nudum, there is still a chance=
 that subsequent authors may mistakenly treat it as valid (what happened wi=
th Malkani&#39;s and Ulansky&#39;s taxa comes to mind). Another thing to no=
te is that despite allegedly being registered on ZooBank, I could find no r=
esults for this taxon.=C2=A0=C2=A0<br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 5:32 PM Tyler=
 Greenfield &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">tgreenfield999@=
gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">The problem I have with this is that it creates=
 unnecessary taxonomic confusion. Despite being a nomen nudum, there is sti=
ll a chance that subsequent authors may mistakenly treat it as valid (what =
happened with Malkani&#39;s and Ulansky&#39;s taxa comes to mind). Another =
thing to note is that despite allegedly being registered on ZooBank, I coul=
d find no results for this taxon.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Dec 21, 2019 at 5:10 PM Mike Taylo=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">sauropoda@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:a=
rial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I&#39;m pretty relaxed about thi=
s. No, the ICZN doesn&#39;t recognise it. But a preprint is a great placeho=
lder until the actual paper comes out. If Bill Parker had done something si=
milar with <i>Heliocanthus</i>, it&#39;s unlikely Lucas et al. would have s=
cooped his taxon with their name <i>   <i>Rioarribasuchus.</i></i></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;f=
ont-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">-- Mike.</div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:smal=
l"><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Sat, 21 Dec 2019 at 23:04, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tgreenfiel=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"=
>Since this is a preprint on a website made for hosting manuscripts and not=
 published in a peer-reviewed journal, I don=E2=80=99t think this constitut=
es a valid naming. The author should have known better than to attempt to n=
ame a new taxon in a preprint.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Dec 21, 2019,=
 at 4:42 PM, Ben Creisler &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=
=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Ben Creisler</div><di=
v><a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">bcreisler@gmail.=
com</a></div><div><br></div><div>A new paper with free pdf:</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Parirau ataroa gen. et sp. nov.</div><div><br>Carlos Albuquerque =
(2019)<br>A Late Cretaceous Lonchodectid?<br>bioRxiv (preprint)<br>doi: <a =
href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__doi.org_10.1=
101_2019.12.17.879783&amp;d=3DDwMFaQ&amp;c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN=
0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=3DRy_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&amp;m=3DQ=
OQCxp-sYvwb64kABSdwuvLjUWljmzybVGCZsgcmwyg&amp;s=3Dni9l_XTq7NG7SE-qZ2M6dBFZ=
Ff6Ij6X6-oSRmmVwkR4&amp;e=3D" target=3D"_blank">https://doi.org/10.1101/201=
9.12.17.879783</a><br><a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=
=3Dhttps-3A__www.biorxiv.org_content_10.1101_2019.12.17.879783v1&amp;d=3DDw=
MFaQ&amp;c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI&amp;r=3DRy_mO4IFaU=
mGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&amp;m=3DQOQCxp-sYvwb64kABSdwuvLjUWljmzybV=
GCZsgcmwyg&amp;s=3D1lG-zjjf56T-UOiCALJd39zlJGaT_uoqaIoNq1Dii6o&amp;e=3D" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2019.12.17.879783v1=
</a></div><div><br>Free pdf:<br><a href=3D"https://urldefense.proofpoint.co=
m/v2/url?u=3Dhttps-3A__www.biorxiv.org_content_10.1101_2019.12.17.879783v1.=
full.pdf&amp;d=3DDwMFaQ&amp;c=3DclK7kQUTWtAVEOVIgvi0NU5BOUHhpN0H8p7CSfnc_gI=
&amp;r=3DRy_mO4IFaUmGof_Yl9MyZgecRCKHn5g4z1CYJgFW9SI&amp;m=3DQOQCxp-sYvwb64=
kABSdwuvLjUWljmzybVGCZsgcmwyg&amp;s=3DefJaXjvaiYiSm3nZPtbbVC4o3F7UH_ZPxegFk=
_2o3AI&amp;e=3D" target=3D"_blank">https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/=
2019.12.17.879783v1.full.pdf</a></div><div><br></div><div><br>A pterosaur u=
lnar specimen (NZMS CD 467) from the Mangahouanga Stream of New Zealand s N=
orth Island has been first described by Wiffen et al 1988. Assumed to belon=
g to a Santanadactylus-like pterosaur, this taxon has not since been extens=
ively described, with only a few tentative claims that it represents an azh=
darchid. Here, I re-examine the specimen and compare it to other pterodacty=
loid taxa, noting peculiar features such as its plug-like (obdurate) ulnar =
end. Christened Parirau ataroa, this taxon is found to be a lonchodectid, w=
hich alongside the North American Navajodactylus boerei extends this clade =
into the world s youngest pterosaur faunas.<br><br></div></div>
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