Re: Mr. Bird, negation, and *ivorousness

Jorge "Llamb?as" <jjllambias2000-/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Message-ID <[email protected]>
la djan cusku di'e

> For me, "Mr. Bird is carnivorous" means "-Mr. cipni noroi fe'enoroi
> spati citka".

(Be careful with the double negatives. That means that at no time
he nowhere eats plants, which is false even for herbivorous birds,
since even them are not eating plants anywhere at some time. You want
{roroi fe'eroroi naku} = {roroi naku fe'esu'oroi} = {naku su'oroi
fe'esu'oroi} = {noroi fe'esu'oroi}, i.e. "at no time is he eating
plants somewhere".) 

I think that the problem is that the Kind has more "roi"s available
than the avatars. There is a dimension in which each avatar is
stuck to one roi. So, using fe'ei to convert to the avatar dimension,
I would say "-Mr. cipni fe'eisu'oroi noroi fe'esu'oroi spati citka"
is true. i.e. "Mr. Bird for some avatar never eats plants anywhere",
i.e. "Mr. Bird for some avatar is carnivorous". 

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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