Re: Mr. Bird, negation, and *ivorousness

Jorge "Llamb?as" <jjllambias2000-/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
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--- John Cowan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jorge Llamb��)B�as scripsit:
> 
> > I think that the problem is that the Kind has more "roi"s available
> > than the avatars. There is a dimension in which each avatar is
> > stuck to one roi. So, using fe'ei to convert to the avatar dimension,
> > I would say "-Mr. cipni fe'eisu'oroi noroi fe'esu'oroi spati citka"
> > is true. i.e. "Mr. Bird for some avatar never eats plants anywhere",
> > i.e. "Mr. Bird for some avatar is carnivorous". 
> 
> You insist on talking about the properties of the avatars of Mr. Bird,
> whereas I am talking the properties of Mr. Bird himself.

What I was saying was that your definition of "carnivourous" covered
all times and all space but not all avatarity (or whatever that
dimension is called). So Mr Bird himself is carnivorous at some
points along this dimension. "-Mr. cipni ca'a [fe'eisu'oroi] -carnivorous".

> It's true that some avatars of Mr. Bird cu na blanu, but not that Mr. Bird
> himself cu na blanu.

By "some avatars of Mr. Bird cu na blanu" you mean naku blanu, right?
If so, I agree.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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