Re: Mr. Bird and other carnivores

John Cowan <[email protected]> Fri, 8 Aug 2003 10:59:21 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
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And Rosta scripsit:

> Similarly, the answer to whether a nonmale or nonwhite *could* be a
> US President determines whether Mr US P is a subkind of Mr White Male.

On what grounds?

> And compare with whether someone not born in the US could be president:
> I'd say that if the answer to that were Yes, then the nature of US P
> would be altered, and we'd be dealing with a different Kind.

So you hold that Mr. Subject-of-George-VI came to an end in 1947 and was
replaced by a new, distinct Mr. Subject-of-George-VI which no longer
included millions of Indian and Pakistani nationals?

> And the answer to whether a black swan would be a true swan would
> determine whether Mr Swan is a subkind of Mr White.

They are swans all right. The question is whether it would be wrong to
deny that Mr. Bluebird is a subkind of Mr. Blanu merely because some non-blue
bluebirds might be discovered eventually.

> And I would not accept that Mr Lojbanist is a subkind of Mr Anglophone,

Suppose that no non-anglophone Lojbanists ever came into existence. From
your seat in Milliways (the restaurant at the end of the universe), would
you then persist in your rejection?

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