Re: Mr. Bird and other carnivores

Jorge "Llamb?as" <jjllambias2000-/[email protected]> Fri, 8 Aug 2003 14:08:37 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Message-ID <[email protected]>
--- John Cowan <[email protected]> wrote:
> Jorge Llamb��)B�as scripsit:
> 
> > That's "everlasting". 
> 
> How is atemporality substantially different from "true at every time"?

Things that exist in space-time (including events) can last 
for ever. Things that don't exist in space time (like
propositions) don't have duration. A proposition may
or may not be about things that exist in space-time.
A proposition may or may not make a statement of duration.
"John was in bed for a month in 1965" was not true or false
for a month, or in 1965. It is true or false atemporally.
For a relationship to last for ever (ze'e), it must have
spatio-temporal existence. Otherwise it makes no sense to
say that it exists at a given time or that it lasts for a 
given interval. 

> > But I'm happy with tu'oroi to mark atemporality.
> 
> "A meaningless number of times within a defaulted interval of time
> beginning and ending at a default vector from the current time."

So I need a way to cancel those slots as well: zu'oroi zi'o 
and something else...

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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