Re: ma tcini

la and cusku di'e

> Thus, "the
> people filled the room" and "the rubble filled the room" both seem to me
> to qualify as xod-Collectives. I am thinking that lo'i/le'i/la'i might be
> suitable for this purpose, generalizing the notion of 'mathematical set'
> to something like 'collection whose properties aren't shared with its
> constituents' (cardinality being the paradigm case of such a property).

I wouldn't mind that as long as it is understood that lo'i/le'i/la'i 
are more precise forms of lo/le/la but with the latter never incompatible 
with the former. So:

le so'i prenu cu se culno le kumfa
The thing I describe as "many people" fills the 
thing I describe as "room".

le'i so'i prenu cu se culno le kumfa
The thing I describe as "many people" focusing on its 
emergent properties, fills the thing I describe as "room".

In fact, the definition of {gunma} suddenly becomes meaningful from 
this perspective. We can say:

lo gunma be le so'i prenu cu se culno le kumfa
The together of the thing I describe as "many people" 
fills the room.

in which case the xod-collective could be a LAhE corresponding to
{lo gunma be}, probably {lu'o}.

mu'o mi'e xorxes


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