Re: The place structure of {speni} in regards to cultural neutrality

Jorge "Llamb?as" <jjllambias2000-/[email protected]> Wed, 15 Oct 2003 09:24:29 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Message-ID <[email protected]>
--- Invent Yourself <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote:
> > We could have a "married" predicate in which the first argument is a
> > group, which says that all the members of the group are married together.
> > Similar to the thing they did for {casnu}.
> 
> pada speni pade .iju pada speni na'ebo de ji'a

{pada speni pade} is clearly false. There are millions of people
that are married to a single person, not just one:
{so'iki'oki'oda speni pade}.

What you want to say is that a person is married to a second 
person independently of whether or not the first one is married 
to someone else. We can say something like {lo prenu cu speni 
lo drata iju py speni na'ebo dy}, for example, with XS gadri. It 
is not something easy to say with quantifiers.

But what Arnt was talking about is a different situation. He is 
not talking of A being married to B and also independently 
to C, i.e. two marriages, but rather a situation in which A, B 
and C all together constitute a single marriage. 

mu'o mi'e xorxes



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