Re: [WikiDiscuss] Re: BPFK gismu Section: Parenthetical Remarks in Brivla Definition

On 10/6/06, John E. Clifford <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, unless it is a lingusitic item (and even then I have some
> doubts) a broda type doesn't count as a broda at all -- because it
> isn't one.

My understanding was that the broda lattice consists of all things
and only those things that at least in some context count as a broda.
The "subsume" relationship that defines the lattice holds only between
brodas, one broda subsumes another broda. Something that is not
a broda cannot subsume a broda.

> I should have thought that it was exxential when talking about breeds
> and of the dogs in them that they be in the same lattice, else in what
> sense is an individual dog in a particular breed?

When we relate breeds with specimens in the same context, we take the
breeds from the breed lattice (which does not contain specimens, because
a breed can only subsume a breed) and the specimen from the specimen
lattice (which does not contain breeds, as a specimen only subsumes
a specimen). The object language relationship "x1 is a specimen of breed
x2" holds between two things in the domain of discourse. In that discourse,
those two things will not be related by "subsume", which is a metalinguistic
relationship. (These two things will happen to both be in the metalinguistic
dog lattice because each could count as a dog in some discourse, but in
most normal discourses, in a discourse that is not about language, only
one of them could count as a dog.)

mu'o mi'e xorxes


 
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