Re: the use of tu'a with sisku

"Jorge LlambĂ­as" <[email protected]> Tue, 12 Jun 2007 23:42:28 -0300
Newsgroups gmane.science.linguistics.lojban.jboske
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 6/12/07, Matt <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Fistly I don't see the logical necessity of the x2 place being a
> property.

I agree with you. In fact I use {sisku} with the place structure
"x1 looks for object/person x2 among x3".

> Secondly I don't understand how using tu'a makes it ok to
> use something that isn't a property as tu'a is simply used to extract
> a sumti from an abstraction;

Actually, it's the other way around: tu'a creates an abstraction
out of a sumti.

> the point is though if you want to
> express that you are looking for something concrete, then there is no
> abstraction to extract it from!

The idea is that {sisku} means "x1 looks for something with
property x2 among x3". Then you always have to put a property in x2,
the property that whatever x1 is looking for has.

> For example, if I wanted to say 'I look for the dog' my understanding
> is I need to say 'mi sisku tu'a le gerku'.

More explicitly: {mi sisku lo ka ce'u du le gerku}, "I am looking
for something that has the property of being the dog".

mu'o mi'e xorxes


 
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