Re: New global API rate limits deployed for anonymous requests
Addshore via Wikitech-l <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Mar 2026 10:44:23 +0000
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> Maybe one solution would be to move unauthenticated requests to the > backend (the PHP API layer) as well because then it's clear that > they're coming from toolforge.org? But that would unfortunately > require a lot of refactoring of this app, and many older ones which i > doubt still have maintainers. > Also, you would basically be running an open proxy now, that could be abused by scrapers to access the API. If the kind of access is restrictive enough this could be a viable work-around, but you'd have to keep an eye on it to spot abuse. So I tried this (in a way) for wikicrowd at the hackathon, with authentication still for the user to this (open proxy) to both 1 perform the requests fro WMCS but then also more easily authenticate them. However due to the number of requests tihs essentially just overwhelms my tool infrastructure. I have since undone this. I was then also directed toward `Api-User-Agent` and the hcakathon, and implemented this for requests, but still ran into 429 issues. I'll be trying to take a fesh look at this at some point to try and reoslve some issues. wikicrowd essentially makes requests to: - Thumbnails such as this at 960px resolution https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Lake_LA-4-200_Buccaneer_AN1895272.jpg/960px-Lake_LA-4-200_Buccaneer_AN1895272.jpg - Wikidata rest API for label lookup, such as https://www.wikidata.org/w/rest.php/wikibase/v1/entities/items/Q7428391/labels_with_language_fallback/en - Entity retrieval such as https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php?action=wbgetentities&format=json&ids=M75693953&props=claims&origin=* As with depictor, for some parts of the tool these are all client side unauthenticated requests currently, made by the users browser. I need to read up on the docs for doig user authentication for these GET requests. I can likely resolve some of my issues by changing some of these requests for additional batching (Vs the current optimization which is for caching). I also wonder if things like origin https://wikicrowd.toolforge.org referer https://wikicrowd.toolforge.org/ could be considered as part of this rate limiting approach? On Sun, 15 Mar 2026 at 10:08, Daniel Kinzler via Wikitech-l < [email protected]> wrote: > > Am 15.03.26 um 09:03 schrieb Siddharth VP: > > So, it would be great if we could treat requests to > rest.php/oauth2/authorize as trusted even if they don't have a user agent. > > This should become a non-issue when that endpoint is exempted from rate > limits. > > -- > Daniel Kinzler > Principal Software Engineer > MediaWiki Engineering Group > Wikimedia Foundation > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ _______________________________________________ Wikitech-l mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikitech-l.lists.wikimedia.org/