Re: Closer To Truth interview

"hibbsa" <hibbsa-/[email protected]> Wed, 15 May 2013 19:49:11 -0000
Newsgroups gmane.science.physics.fabric-of-reality
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--- In [email protected], David Deutsch <david.deutsch@...> wrote:
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> On 9 May 2013, at 13:44, hibbsa <hibbsa@...> wrote:
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> > --- In [email protected], David Deutsch <david.deutsch@> wrote:
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> >> On 8 May 2013, at 22:23, Steve <sonatine123@> wrote:
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> >>> Hello David
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> >>> Thanks for this link - what an interesting website!
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> >>> I have a question about one of your videos.  In 'Many Worlds Of Quantum Theory' you state a figure of 10 raised to 10 raised to the power of 23 as the number of histories involved when considering a cubic metre of air molecules.  How, in principle at least, is this figure derived ?
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> >>> Incidentally I have read both of your books, and know a little about the 'Many Worlds Interpretaion' of quantum mechanics.
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> >> I can't remember the context in which I said that but it'll be something like this: 10^23 is the number of molecules in a mole (which actually occupies 22.4 litres, not a cubic metre, but never mind). If each molecule is in n different places at once, mostly uncorrelated with the others, then there are about n^(10^23) different histories under way. We can let n be 10 quite arbitrarily because with huge numbers like that, the topmost power is pretty much all that counts for purposes of envisaging it.
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> >> So it's a ballpark estimate raised to the power of a ballpark estimate raised to the power of a ballpark estimate.
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> > Why don't these histories become fungible on a higher level? 
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> It's because different-histories-becoming-fungibe is an interference phenomenon that requires 'fine-tuning' in the interaction. Assuming that the atoms in question start out un-entangled and with (say) approximately sharp positions and momenta and hence in approximately a single history, generic (non-fine-tuned) interactions will tend to entangle them more and more as they bounce around.
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> -- David Deutsch

p.s. to the other post coming out with this one.

It seems to me you need conscious decisions for multiverse histories to see macroscopic divergence of a significant kind. 

Which sort of puts MWI in the dock for one of the problems it claims to solve: putting conscious observers at the heart of things. 
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