Re: Multiverse Morality

On 7 August 2013 16:50, Ismail Atalay <i_c_atalay-/[email protected]> wrote:

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> >On Thursday, 23 May 2013 hibssa wrote
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> >I see this as really key to understanding the wider worldview expressed
> by Popperians.
> >The big mistake I notice from non-popperians regarding MWI are the moral
> implications. For them, typically, the implication is that there is no
> morality because everything that can >happen will happen somewhere, with
> nothing special attached to what happens 'here'.
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> >The reality is clearly different, and, I think....possibly this is the
> source of the attachment of Popperians to the counter-intuitive.
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> >The true moral implications are actually really stunning and profound.
> Definitely putting morality to the centre of everything...above even
> physical reality itself in a way.
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> >Only by living purposefully...being consistent...being philosophically
> correct....not compromising on principle, not living arbitrarily, not
> living altruistically...only by doing these things >can you in this one
> universe exert influence into the multiverse itself, and ultimately shape
> who you are.
> I know it is a rather late reply but I noticed that no one answered to
> your candid post.
> Let me explain my position as an "anti-popperian"
> I read your post. I think I understood it. Unfortunately your effort to
> come up with some type of morality from MWI belief does not seem convincing
> to me.
> The whole premise of morality (at least in the classical sense) is based
> on moral agents making choices in the way they act (out of multiple
> options) and their choices making a meaningful existential and
> circumstantial difference in themselves and in the world they live. In MWI
> world, the moral agent's choice looses its significance. Actually the moral
> agent him/herself looses its significance and meaning.
> In MWI, there are infinite number of moral agents and they do choose every
> possible option anyway in infinite number of universes. Why would the
> choice of one particular self in one of the infinite number of universes
> make a meaningful difference from the perspective of multiverse existence?
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I would say that it makes an infinitesimal difference.


> We know all possible universes do exist right?
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Yes, and each of them has a measure in the multiverse (roughly a
"probability" if you want to see it in a different way).


> And they do not have any superiority or uniqueness with respect to others
> according to MWI. There is nothing special in any of the universes. We can
> not say one universe would be "better" than the other.
> Or should we say it? There would be universes which are "better" than
> others from consistency, purposefulness and correctness perspective.  Shall
> we try to be in the best possible universe? Why I would have such
> motivation if I already know that all other lower morality universes would
> exist in parallel whatever I choose and in the end I am not making any
> difference from the overall existential perspective?
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What you could do is to try to maximise the measure of "good" universes
whith respect to "bad" ones in the whole of the multiverse.
That's definitely something meaningful you can do!

I hope I have understood your points,
Piernicola



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Hi,


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