Re: Macroscopic Emergence in MWI worlds

On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:40 AM, hibbsa <hibbsa-/[email protected]> wrote:
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> --- In [email protected], Gary Oberbrunner <garyo@...> wrote:
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>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:27 PM, hibbsa <hibbsa@...> wrote:
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>> >  ...
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>> > > > In which case are you willing to provide a plausible description for how
>> > > > quantum divergence can become part of an effect that goes on result in
>> > > > macroscopic divergence.
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>> > > I don't know. What is "quantum divergence"? Is it just that in some
>> > > worlds the photon is emitted at t_1, and at some others at t_2? It's not a
>> > > term I'm familiar with.
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>> > the term wasn't correct, but we had a context and there was a key work
>> > divergence. I was talking about divergence in the multiverse.
>> >
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>> OK -- divergence like I meant above, right?  Where a photon is emitted at
>> two different times in different worlds?  In that case, Schroedinger's Cat
>> is the canonical example of macroscopic amplification of a quantum effect.
>>  But so is a geiger counter, and there are many others.  Do those serve?
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> These examples don't qualify because they are human/biology dependent (right at the start I did exclude this realm if you want to go back and check) We already know divergence is easy to demonstrate in that realm. But what about outside that realm? Deutsch describes a wave spreading out at the speed of light driving the process of divergence onward. But at what stage does the macroscopic world look different between universes, and why?
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> I'm not saying it doesn't happen. I made it clear I expect it does. But it should be possible to explain consistent with Deutsch's explanation of emergence. I mean, using the vocabularly of emergence. This shouldn't be a problem, and it's all I've been asking for.

fyi, i read your emails about mwi and never know what you're asking.
so its a problem for me to answer you.

for example, I don't understand why you care about vocabulary. why do
you think that's important to solving your problem?

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