Re: Variations in the MWI multiverse
Gary Oberbrunner <[email protected]> Thu, 6 Mar 2014 06:12:04 -0500
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--089e011619b60c82f604f3ee35b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Lee Corbin <[email protected]> wrote: > Consider the set, across the multiverse according to MWI, of solar systems > essentially similar to ours. This set is much vaster (or, perhaps, we > should > say, has greater measure or frequency) than the GIU (Group of Identical > Universes) exactly identical to ours. > Of course. One is a strict subset of the other. And the multiverse is very, very, very big. So far I don't think you're saying anything controversial. Any _given_ similar-but-not-identical configuration may be vastly less probable than ours (say, all the same as ours but that it includes a giant space duck) but there are so many variations -- even trivial ones like slight differences in decay times of a particular atom -- that they must quickly overwhelm the identical ones. You can really make the same argument for cup of coffee I think. -- Gary --089e011619b60c82f604f3ee35b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmai= l_quote">On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Lee Corbin <span dir=3D"ltr"><= <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">leecorbin337@gm= ail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;"><p>= Consider the set, across the multiverse according to MWI, of solar systems = <br> essentially similar to ours. This set is much vaster (or, perhaps, we shoul= d <br> say, has greater measure or frequency) than the GIU (Group of Identical <br= > Universes) exactly identical to ours.</p></blockquote></div><br>Of course. = =A0One is a strict subset of the other. =A0And the multiverse is very, very= , very big. =A0So far I don't think you're saying anything controve= rsial.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">Any _given_= similar-but-not-identical configuration may be vastly less probable than o= urs (say, all the same as ours but that it includes a giant space duck) but= there are so many variations -- even trivial ones like slight differences = in decay times of a particular atom -- that they must quickly overwhelm the= identical ones.</div> <div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">You can rea= lly make the same argument for cup of coffee I think.<br><div><br></div>-- = <br>Gary </div></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20=20 <table cellspacing=3D4px style=3D"margin-top: 20px; margin-bottom: 10px= ;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bo= ld; padding: 7px 5px 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1= px solid #EAEAEA " > <a style=3D"text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD= " href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/post;_ylc=3DX3oDM= TJxYTRnb2JxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BG1z= Z0lkAzI1NjMyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTM5NDEwNzUzMQ--?act=3Dreply&me= ssageNum=3D25632">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe%3A%20Varia= tions%20in%20the%20MWI%20multiverse" style=3D"text-decoration: none; color:= #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DR= e%3A%20Variations%20in%20the%20MWI%20multiverse" style=3D"text-decoration: = none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a>=20 </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #FFF; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA; "= > <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality/post= ;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJldGJwYjNuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA= 1MDIwNTg1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTM5NDEwNzUzMQ--" style=3D"text-de= coration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td style=3D"font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5p= x 5px; color: #2D50FD; background-color: #F2F2F2; border: 1px solid #EAEAEA= ; " > <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric= -of-Reality/message/25631;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM2MWhkaDcxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAz= E4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BG1zZ0lkAzI1NjMyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc= 3RpbWUDMTM5NDEwNzUzMQR0cGNJZAMyNTYzMQ--" style=3D"text-decoration: none; co= lor: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (2) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tran= sform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inl= ine;"> </ul> =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Fabric-of-Reality;_ylc=3DX3oDM= TJlbHZqMW1pBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BHNl= YwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM5NDEwNzUzMQ--" style=3D"text-decoration: non= e;">Visit Your Group</a> </div> </div> =20=20 <div id=3D"ft" style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5p= x; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJkOWV2MXBiBF9TAzk3NDc2NT= kwBGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZ= QMxMzk0MTA3NTMx" style=3D"float: left;"><img src=3D"http://l.yimg.com/ru/st= atic/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height=3D"15" wid= th=3D"137" alt=3D"Yahoo! 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