Re: CT theory of life
"David Deutsch david.deutsch-LR/[email protected] [Fabric-of-Reality]" <[email protected]> Mon, 8 Sep 2014 23:28:55 +0100
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--Apple-Mail=_C7ACDB08-24D0-41A1-A628-2B3192BB0B1B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On 7 Sep 2014, at 22:55, hibbsa-/[email protected] [Fabric-of-Reality] <Fabric-of-R= [email protected]> wrote: > Your latest paper, Ct Theory of Life. It= 's not mine. It's by Marletto. > I am quite interested in the direction you= are trying to pursue. I read the paper, and then thought it through a litt= le, but I cannot see the new distinctiveness that you bring to this matter.= > > Bring it you do, I feel sure. Perhaps it's on a level that I do not y= et see. But in terms of the structure your proof and the Constructor Theory= so far, what in your view is most transforming the current picture? > > T= here's a clear reasoning of course. Your conclusions are clear also, and do= follow from the reasoning. But it seems to me, that all you actually do, a= nd take what are the components of the current longstanding reasoning no-de= sign evolution, which presents a world view of high fidelity replication, a= nd copy-errors involved in Life. > > The copy errors, follow from the reas= oning. What do you add? > Two of the fundamental innovations in the paper= are: (1) It shows why vehicles (organisms) are necessary even in principl= e, to complex life, in addition to replicators. (Contrary to the consensus = in neo-Darwinian evolution theory. See, e.g. the Foreword here: http://www.= amazon.co.uk/Host-Manipulation-Parasites-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0199642249 ) = (2) It addresses the question "how could life have originated?" without get= ting stuck in the question "what is the probability of each step" in which = prevailing-conception treatments get bogged down. -- David Deutsch = --Apple-Mail=_C7ACDB08-24D0-41A1-A628-2B3192BB0B1B Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style="background-color: #fff;"> <span style="display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position:relative;"> <div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id="ygrp-text" > <p><br><div><div>On 7 Sep 2014, at 22:55, <a href="mailto:hibbsa-/[email protected]">hibbsa-/[email protected]</a> [Fabric-of-Reality] <<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Monaco;font-size: 14px;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;">Your latest paper, Ct Theory of Life.<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div>It's not mine. It's by Marletto.<br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Monaco;font-size: 14px;font-style: normal;font-variant: normal;font-weight: normal;letter-spacing: normal;text-align: start;text-indent: 0px;text-transform: none;white-space: normal;"><p style="padding: 15px 0px 3px;overflow: hidden;">I am quite interested in the direction you are trying to pursue. I read the paper, and then thought it through a little, but I cannot see the new distinctiveness that you bring to this matter.</p><p style="padding: 15px 0px 3px;overflow: hidden;">Bring it you do, I feel sure. Perhaps it's on a level that I do not yet see. But in terms of the structure your proof and the Constructor Theory so far, what in your view is most transforming the current picture?</p><p style="padding: 15px 0px 3px;overflow: hidden;">There's a clear reasoning of course. Your conclusions are clear also, and do follow from the reasoning. But it seems to me, that all you actually do, and take what are the components of the current longstanding reasoning no-design evolution, which presents a world view of high fidelity replication, and copy-errors involved in Life.</p><p style="padding: 15px 0px 3px;overflow: hidden;">The copy errors, follow from the reasoning. What do you add?</p></div></blockquote><br></div><div>Two of the fundamental innovations in the paper are:</div><div><br></div><div>(1) It shows why vehicles (organisms) are necessary even in principle, to complex life, in addition to replicators. (Contrary to the consensus in neo-Darwinian evolution theory. See, e.g. the Foreword here: <a href="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Host-Manipulation-Parasites-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0199642249">http://www.amazon.co.uk/Host-Manipulation-Parasites-Richard-Dawkins/dp/0199642249</a> )</div><div><br></div><div>(2 ) It addresses the question "how could life have originated?" without getting stuck in the question "what is the probability of each step" in which prevailing-conception treatments get bogged down.</div><div><br></div><div>-- David Deutsch</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br></p> </div> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style="color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <div id="fromDMARC" style="margin-top: 10px;"> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> Posted by: David Deutsch <david.deutsch-LR/[email protected]> <hr style="height:2px ; border-width:0; color:#E3E3E3; background-color:#E3E3E3;"> </div> <div style="clear:both"> </div> <table cellspacing=4px style="margin-top: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; color: #2D50FD;"> <tbody> <tr> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; font-weight: bold; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD" href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fabric-of-Reality/conversations/messages/25667;_ylc=X3oDMTJxbmwxZWhnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BG1zZ0lkAzI1NjY3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTQxMDI0NzIwMw--?act=reply&messageNum=25667">Reply via web post</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="mailto:david.deutsch-LR/[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20CT%20theory%20of%20life" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;"> Reply to sender </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;"> <a href="mailto:[email protected]?subject=Re%3A%20CT%20theory%20of%20life" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD"> Reply to group </a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fabric-of-Reality/conversations/newtopic;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMHM5Y3ZuBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQxMDI0NzIwMw--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD">Start a New Topic</a> </td> <td>•</td> <td style="font-size: 12px; font-family: arial; padding: 7px 5px 5px;color: #2D50FD;" > <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fabric-of-Reality/conversations/topics/25666;_ylc=X3oDMTM2MXVyNmhtBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BG1zZ0lkAzI1NjY3BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTQxMDI0NzIwMwR0cGNJZAMyNTY2Ng--" style="text-decoration: none; color: #2D50FD;">Messages in this topic</a> (2) </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #f2f2f2; font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-transform: uppercase; "><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/Fabric-of-Reality/info;_ylc=X3oDMTJldWxzOXNnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTQxMDI0NzIwMg--" style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your Group</a></span> <ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inline;"> </ul> </div> <div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px; margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;"> <a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/neo;_ylc=X3oDMTJkYXE0ODliBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzE4ODg2MDAEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDIwNTg1BHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxNDEwMjQ3MjAz" style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png" height="15" width="137" alt="Yahoo! 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