Re: Sparging
David Weinshenker <[email protected]> Mon, 15 May 2006 20:54:44 -0700
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Ben Brockert wrote: > If buying a machine is the best route, why is ERPS rolling their own? A. In deep enough that I'd hate to walk away at this point - I've got enough infrastructure in place (incl. working 3-phase power at the ranch, now!) and equipment under construction that I may as well see this phase through to where I've given my current plan a fair test! (even though it's taking a few years longer than I first assumed... but that's more due to logistical externalities than to insurmountable obstacles in the technical development itself, which I must be careful to keep in mind when responding to this sort of question: the hard part hasn't been building things so much as making the time available to do it.) B. I think the route we're pursuing will potentially yield extra-pure (>98%) H2O2 with low impurity levels, as in the last batches XL-space supplied before closing: and the "squeaky clean & wicked pure" stuff has evident potential not only for catalytic work but also for potential hypergolic combinations. (Everything I've encountered so far leads me to the conclusion that if lower-concentration material is desired for use with a particular catalyst, best results will be had with highly-purified material (by way of a final freeze separation) diluted as needed, rather than with H2O2 concentrated by evaporation directly up to the intended strength (unless the evaporation starts with extremely low-solute material). This is not out of the question: the process used by Bengtsson of "Peroxide Propulsion Systems" in Sweden involves running the H2O2 in dilute aqueous solution through an ion-exchange "demineralizer" as is used in preparing purified water: with solutes thus removed, he then concentrates the solution by evaporation. As far as the Lozano apparatus, it looks like it's a conventional lab setup in two stages, first a vacuum flask evaporator set with condenser, and second a vacuum still with reflux column - I think the idea is to start by evaporating and condensing the supply material to get rid of solutes and then using the column to distill out as much water as possible... operating at a vacuum allows a low enough temperature to be safe. (The boiling point of pure H2O2 at atmospheric pressure is about 150 C, and you don't really want a process that involves getting the stuff that warm... accidental catalysis of pure boiling-temperature peroxide would undoubtedly be a violent event, whereas at temperatures much below normal ambient, the stuff sort of goes to sleep, at least by comparison.) Biggest negative IMHO of the Lozano apparatus is using laboratory-style glass-bulb vacuum flasks, which seem like they could be a bit fragile at that scale... -dave w