Re: ecovillage and sustainability
"Poul Emil Tvermoes" <[email protected]> Mon, 03 May 2004 21:24:19 +0000
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Poul Tvermoes Well this debate and discussion has been interesting to watch from the perspective of a working town pllanner and some one with a keen interest in eco villages. Perhaps two pionts with alternative communitarian settlments, to draw on Roseabeth Moss Kanters work, is that you can not build a social community from creating a physical community. The social organisation must come first. So inregards to the comments E.Christopher Mare wrote physical determinism from both the over 2000 commuitarian communities in the USA in the 19th century only a few survive today and the constant is a sytrong social organisation and belief system. As to Permaculture for me, mush of it is a little too pat ie do a designers course and wala, you are a designer? It tries to some degree to establish the physical then the social, which is perhaps just what developers of land and housing I woirk with do. Perhaps in this instance is needs a number of additional principles grounded in tradiotional practise but which are outside of the current land & physical design perspective with all of its limitations. 3 / 39 Carlingford Street Elsternwick Melbourne Victoria Australia 3162 04 3 888 6226 >From: forest <[email protected]> >Reply-To: <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Ecobal]ecovillage and sustainability >Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1904 00:37:53 +0000 > > > >wrote: > > > Maximizing beneficial connections amongst the humans is certainly > > permaculture but can we actually 'design' community? in recognition of the > > fact that living systems SELF-organize? > >i prefer a balance between formal design organization and self-organization or >going with the flow or spontaneity... > >-- >forest >[email protected] >http://www.lavazone2.com/forest > > > >------------------------------------------------ >To subscribe or unsubscribe to ecobalance go to: >http://www.ecovillage.org/ecobalance >------------------------------------------------ ---------- Get Hotmail on your mobile. Click here. ------------------------------------------------ To subscribe or unsubscribe to ecobalance go to: http://www.ecovillage.org/ecobalance ------------------------------------------------