Re: ecovillage and sustainability

Aloha,

> Interesting comment re permaculture founders, I have met Daidid Holmgren a few
> times and he seems to be a very down to earth person, so not sure if he was
> the ""quiet reclusive loner, more or less"".

I confess I am most certainly extrapolating regarding David Holmgren. 
Mollison has been a public enough figure that I make my assessment of his
contributions to human relatings elements from his videos and writings and the
various stories of his actions I have repeatedly heard from people who know
him to a greater or lesser extent.  Holmgren being as far as I can tell a much
less public person and not having seen a lot in his publications either on
human relational aspects in permaculture, I take a guess...not implying that
he is not a very down to earth person or whatever, just that his focus is
(apparently, from his works) not heavy on design particulars of human
relatings elements.

I want to read Holmgren's new book and haven't yet, though I have seen a
presentation Peter Bane does based on some of the material therein.  Peter's
presentation is on 'revised' principles as presented by Holmgren and I found
it rather "head-y" so I need to look at the whole work myself.

In short, "people care" is a core PC principle and yet gets very little
expansion, clarification, structure, methods, techniques, etc. in the works of
the permaculture 'founders' - especially in comparison to the massive detail
on all manner of other physical/biological systems in for example the
Designer's Manual.

cheers,
John S.


John Schinnerer - MA, Whole Systems Design
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