Kindred Spirits Meet - May 29th
T <temeluch-/[email protected]> Tue, 18 May 2004 14:19:45 -0700 (PDT)
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I do appreciate all these careful criticisms. I sometimes do end up doing a bit of a parody of myself and I am sorry if that has been confusing so I will now try to keep it simple: Kindred Spirits! Saturday Morning on May 29th at - 11am - All Kindred Spirits will Meet - We wait for the others out in front of the Jack London Lodge Restaurant area right in the middle of town in Glen Ellen which is just about 45 miles north of the Golden Gate Bridge. From the Bay Area go north up 101 from the Golden Gate Bridge and somewhere around San Rafael take the HWY 37 exit East towards Vallejo and then after a while you take a left up 121 and go North towards Sonoma and just keep going north and on up Arnold Drive into Glen Ellen.. All are welcome to come who come in good spirit. All Friends of the Sustainable Communities Movement will be welcomed and your voice does need to be heard and appreciated. And this might be one of your best chances to meet up with some of the truly awesome visionaries here within the heart of this entire movement and to begin your own personal journey of finding your Home Place of Peace right here on the Beautiful Mother Earth with some of the other fine folks and amidst many other wonderful projects and opportunities to make the magic work. You bring your own healthy and happy faces to this Meet which is a friendly gathering of Kindred Spirits working towards a collective vision of an Earth Restored And a World at Peace in all different ways. It's all Positive and Constructive. Networking with a Purpose. Collaboration and Companionship is Key. You are welcome to Freely Share your own most elegant wishes and good ideas. This is the place to make your Contributions known and I want you all to be there with us because Freedom Starts right here and forever. This is what the real Magic is all about. We can make it all happen by combining our own intensions to collaborate together. We will meet at 11am in Glen Ellen in Northern California which is about 45 miles north of the Golden Gate Bridge. This is also a connecting point for people to make a few real friendships that will last forever. These are just the beginnings. What will happen is that others will connect up with those few who have connected up with us all in good faith and Real Magic will begin to happen. In this way it can begin to grow like a Tree. Then each one of us reaches out to others in many different ways. Where you work. Where you live. Other places. We reach out. This is how the Tree Grows. We must begin to reach out to find all the others in a way that does not overstretch our own personal resources. By sharing the job it works better and becomes easier. I am just one on the smaller branches on this Tree. You could become another. We need your kind words and real help as true collaborators towards creating a new world. We're all Children here on this Tree. But this Tree is here for a very significant purpose. It's not just about people who want to learn things or to have things. We are here to create new things for all to share. There is a Magic and an Art to the way we must follow. We are just the Children of the Earth and we are going to have to become truly magical children. I am just one of the many Children of the Earth who have now become one of it's protectors. And with your help I hope one day many more will join us for an Earth Restored and a World at Peace. The Beginning of the Integration of the Kindred Spirits at the Meet is founded upon the Principle that the Integration of the energy generated from the collaboration of like minds, is greater than just the sum of the individual contributors. We are just one branch of this Extremely Elegant new Tree. Do come and take your places within the shelter of one of our many branches. Then we will become a starting point for greater things to come and a place where people can come up for related visits, events and get togethers. We do need to meet. The vision is here and this is what we can do right now. If any of this really speaks to you then do respond in some depth about who you are and what you are about. Much Love and Many Blessings to You All. - T http://edenvillage.net/18.htm forest <[email protected]> wrote: on 5/4/04 7:26 AM, T at temeluch-/[email protected] wrote: Don't worry about how it will work Forest. Negative Energy doesn't work in any system. forest: i am not worrying, i am asking questions....how does that translate to negative energy???? t: Every member of the community must volunteer to work one day per week. That right there is a huge resource which alone can be counted on to do the entire job. All we have to pay for is the Seeds or Seedlings. forest: you could collect seeds from nature and plant them and save money.... t: Then of course we will still have a huge bank account that is just crammed full of US Dollars that have all been marked with a T on the back that has as you have seen remained largely intact except for the cost of the seeds and or seedlings and a wide variety of tools and supplies. forest: why did you choose to put a "t" on the back????? t: Committees will be created by the Council and sub-committees will be created in turn. forest: how is "the council" formed and who can be on it???...and do they operate by consensus????....is there anyone above the council???? t: Consensus as you can see has no real place in the environment because it doesn't have that much reality. forest: don't understand your statement here????....there is much consensus in nature... t: It is not a necessary part of this process or any other process known to science. forest: did you know that the quakers use consensus, as well as the united nations, NATO, hewlit packard, and many of the more inovative and freethinking intentional communities, just to mention a few.... t: That is just another tiny little tool with almost no effect like a spindly rake that we can do all this work with or without. forest: imho i do not see how anyone can act out a sustainable community or eco-village without consensus.....without that level of spiritual cooperation imho real true sustainability is not possible.... t: All you need to plant trees is a good stick. And I do have a pretty good stick well in hand here as you can see so let us not start panicking about the evaporation of something that was never there to begin with. forest: much of your dialog here sounds authoritative, is that your intention with eden village????....aren't we as americans especially too independant to "follow the leader"....especially if the leader has no more experience or expertise than the rest of us?????..... t: I have not promised non stop all night consensus parties every day of the week. We will play around with some of these curiously flawed structures like Democracy and Consensus. forest: so what unflawed structures are you considering???....have you ever tried consensus or democracy????....which do you prefer????.... t: Look who gets elected. It really is a crude tool and it is not used for that reason by any of the exact sciences. forest: i suspect if consensus was used more by science that the environment would be in less peril than it is now..... t: It doesn't matter what people think. Opinion does not change the density of water which in this group is very high. forest: are you a people too????....if trying to start an eco-village, which is an organized social system, how can we conclude that it doesn't matter what people think????... t: We should not be worshiping these false idols of ignorance and fear which all comes only from one thing and that is Wrong Education meaning victim based ignorance. forest: as near as i can understand your approach, it sounds like it will be run by some kind of "false idol" or "idols"..... t: Only the Lifelong Victims like we have seen here on the web so commonly need protection from the Real Visionaries who come across like Charlie Manson for the most part to those who just don't want to know and don't want to learn because they already know everything which to me is a lot scarier than Manson ever could be.. forest: how much do you feel you know????....more than the group you are involved in????...more than me?????... t: We will provide these folks with some degree of protection. But we do ask them to give us a little bit of slack as well so we can continue to do our best and not get bogged down in useless stupidities. forest: how would you define "useless stupidities"????? t: That is why we will use the New American 3 /4 Consensus Process Version T that is designed to beat all the others cold. forest: that sounds like majority rule to me.....more like democracy than consensus and we can see that democracy is still moving swiftly at destroying the environment because they have this competition "beat others cold" mentality trying to get to those natural resources before anyone else does and use them up carelessly..... t: The other stuff has just recently been sold on Ebay just last week. We beat up all the other guys and now we own them. forest: what other stuff are you referring to here????....in consensus sustainable spirituality there is no need to "beat up all the other guys and then own them"....it is more like share the knowledge and wisdom and support them in becoming like us, more sustainable.... t: We are very pragmatic here. I myself will speak up if no one else and say " That is not practical" when dumbness begins to pervade the air. Old expectations must be dropped now that the dawning of a new day has begun to unfold right here before us all on this totally fine new day. forest: i am all for pragmatism, but only if balanced with intuition....together they make a whole brain and over time open the unused frontal lobe....if pragmatism dominates, it is out of balance and destructive to the whole imho..... t: But do read the material if you need more of an indepth understanding. This has all been covered quite fully on the full blown website. Read it while you can before its all taken down and we disappear from sight. - T forest: why would you ever take it down if the model was a good one????....wouldn't you want to share your great ideas with others seeking a similar example????...aloha and peace, -- forest [email protected] http://www.lavazone2.com/forest/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price.