Re: [Ecobal]dream
"jjpop" <jjpop-fcex4suS+pXmSTqxT0N/UAC/[email protected]>
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hi, let's share whatever we have so that we all know that we have another avenue to go. pop thitadilaka PTA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronald Greek" <unno_2002-/[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: Re: [Ecobal]dream > Sir, > > To start, I wish you and your client the best of luck, > and success. > > Now that the mass of humanity spans the globe, in > numbers that quite probably greatly exceeds the > carrying capacity of the world, we all need luck. > > Given the technology of today, and the overpopulation, > it appears the most rational living situation is in > some form of "eco-village" - a community established > in such a manner that not only all of the NECESSITIES > of life are provided from the property of the village > residents, but to truely meet the "Ecological" aspect, > where the village has under it's ownership and control > sufficient land that can be left in a "natural" state > the the village does not dominate the landscape. > > My personal view is that humanity should not devote to > the exclusive use of humans more than 10% of any given > ecology. We are at this time, I'm sure you will > agree, WELL beyond this. > > The current global population is not being sustained > by renewable resources, rather, it is sustained by the > use of fossil fuels, both as energy, and as material > for making products, and for artificial fertilizers. > Once the fossil fuels are no longer cheap and > abundant, the present "house of cards", upon which the > bulk of humanity depends for life support, will > collapse. > > Prior to that time, it is essential that some secure > enclaves be established, at which knowledge, skills > and experience are preserved, and it is taught and > clearly understood that growth in population is a > grave error. > > Before the fossil fuel era, the maximum sustainable > population was under 2 billion. Due to the mess we've > made, in the post fossil fuel era, it is probable the > sustainable population will be significantly less. > > In recent years, worldwide humanity consumed over 27.7 > billion barrels of oil per year. Reasonable estimates > are that there is about 800 billion barrels remaining. > The highest, wildest guess is around 1,200 billion > barrels left. > > Do the math, even without any annual increase in use, > there are not that many years left. > > Note also the logic from economic theory, well before > the last drop of oil is burned, it will no longer be > cheap and abundant. When it is no longer cheap and > abundant, the current global socio-economic-industrial > infrasturucture MUST collapse. > > Stepping back further, once sufficient people realize > the threat, and decide to take action, THEN is when it > is too late to take any such action. > > I do not have an on-paper design, but I do have > specific thoughts for eliminating dependence on > external inputs to an "eco-village". I would be > willing to share these notes with anyone who desires > them. > > R. Greek > Yuma, AZ, USA > > > --- Victório Rojas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello for all!! > > > > I'm an brazilian architect, and a very special > > client have a dream!!: 'make' > > an ecovillage!! > > > > A long time I believe that these 'models' of > > occupation are the solution of > > a many problems of the city...and the humans.... > > > > She (the client) have the space (wonderful!!), but > > the money...... > > > > I want like to know if have a financial for this > > places..... > > > > Thanks very much for your attention,,, if you want > > to know more or take me a > > hint, please send an e-mail....one thing is a fact - > > this dream will be come > > true!! > > > > Creation and Information > > Love and Light > > > > > > Victório > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Messenger: converse com os seus amigos online. > > http://messenger.msn.com.br > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > To subscribe or unsubscribe to ecobalance go to: > > http://www.ecovillage.org/ecobalance > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------ > To subscribe or unsubscribe to ecobalance go to: > http://www.ecovillage.org/ecobalance > ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ To subscribe or unsubscribe to ecobalance go to: http://www.ecovillage.org/ecobalance ------------------------------------------------