Re: [Ecobal]dream

"jjpop" <jjpop-fcex4suS+pXmSTqxT0N/UAC/[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.technology.sustainable.ecobalance
Message-ID <000b01c33fa3$147a89e0$750afea9@pt>
hi,
let's share whatever we have so that we all know that we have another avenue
to go.
pop thitadilaka
PTA
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ronald Greek" <unno_2002-/[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Ecobal]dream


> Sir,
>
> To start, I wish you and your client the best of luck,
> and success.
>
> Now that the mass of humanity spans the globe, in
> numbers that quite probably greatly exceeds the
> carrying capacity of the world, we all need luck.
>
> Given the technology of today, and the overpopulation,
> it appears the most rational living situation is in
> some form of "eco-village" - a community established
> in such a manner that not only all of the NECESSITIES
> of life are provided from the property of the village
> residents, but to truely meet the "Ecological" aspect,
> where the village has under it's ownership and control
> sufficient land that can be left in a "natural" state
> the the village does not dominate the landscape.
>
> My personal view is that humanity should not devote to
> the exclusive use of humans more than 10% of any given
> ecology.  We are at this time, I'm sure you will
> agree, WELL beyond this.
>
> The current global population is not being sustained
> by renewable resources, rather, it is sustained by the
> use of fossil fuels, both as energy, and as material
> for making products, and for artificial fertilizers.
> Once the fossil fuels are no longer cheap and
> abundant, the present "house of cards", upon which the
> bulk of humanity depends for life support, will
> collapse.
>
> Prior to that time, it is essential that some secure
> enclaves be established, at which knowledge, skills
> and experience are preserved, and it is taught and
> clearly understood that growth in population is a
> grave error.
>
> Before the fossil fuel era, the maximum sustainable
> population was under 2 billion.  Due to the mess we've
> made, in the post fossil fuel era, it is probable the
> sustainable population will be significantly less.
>
> In recent years, worldwide humanity consumed over 27.7
> billion barrels of oil per year.  Reasonable estimates
> are that there is about 800 billion barrels remaining.
>  The highest, wildest guess is around 1,200 billion
> barrels left.
>
> Do the math, even without any annual increase in use,
> there are not that many years left.
>
> Note also the logic from economic theory, well before
> the last drop of oil is burned, it will no longer be
> cheap and abundant.  When it is no longer cheap and
> abundant, the current global socio-economic-industrial
> infrasturucture MUST collapse.
>
> Stepping back further, once sufficient people realize
> the threat, and decide to take action, THEN is when it
> is too late to take any such action.
>
> I do not have an on-paper design, but I do have
> specific thoughts for eliminating dependence on
> external inputs to an "eco-village".  I would be
> willing to share these notes with anyone who desires
> them.
>
> R. Greek
> Yuma, AZ, USA
>
>
> --- Victório Rojas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello for all!!
> >
> > I'm an brazilian architect, and a very special
> > client have a dream!!: 'make'
> > an ecovillage!!
> >
> > A long time I believe that these 'models' of
> > occupation are the solution of
> > a many problems of the city...and the humans....
> >
> > She (the client) have the space (wonderful!!), but
> > the money......
> >
> > I want like to know if have a financial for this
> > places.....
> >
> > Thanks very much for your attention,,, if you want
> > to know more or take me a
> > hint, please send an e-mail....one thing is a fact -
> > this dream will be come
> > true!!
> >
> > Creation and Information
> > Love and Light
> >
> >
> > Victório
> >
> >
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