Re: Clearsilver without native code?
Chris Trimble <[email protected]> Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:22:16 -0700
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--000e0cd17cf2c341d3048a4bd0e7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What about using Jython and building the bulk of your logic/templating with Java? C On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Kannan Goundan <[email protected]> wrote: > Yeah... it's a bit unfortunate. We may or may not find a way around > implementing it twice. Either way, we also have an issue with native > code being disallowed. > > I'm considering adding code generation support to Clearsilver -- just > something that converts the CSTREE to Python/Java code. The untyped > parse tree a little difficult to work with (just not what I'm used to) > but I figure I could plow through it and get a Python prototype in a > day or two if it comes to that. > > Again, not sure if we're gonna go this route or not, I was just > wondering if anybody had already dealt with this sort of thing. > > -- Kannan > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 21:01, Chris Trimble <[email protected]> wrote: > > No, Clearsilver is implemented in C so you'll have to compile the native > > code for both. > > I'm responding mostly because I'm interested in why you have to implement > > the exact same web page in both Python and Java. What's the requirement > > that necessitates this? It seems like a maintenance nightmare. > > - Chris > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:26 PM, cakoose <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> Hello! I need to implement the same dynamic web page in Python and > Java. > >> Though the request-handling and data-retrieval code will need to be > written > >> twice, it would be nice to be able to use a shared template. > Clearsilver > >> supports both languages, but from what I can tell, it uses native code, > >> which isn't allowed in my case. > >> > >> Is there a way to use Clearsilver without the native code component? > --000e0cd17cf2c341d3048a4bd0e7 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p>What about using Jython and building the bulk of your logic/templa= ting with Java?<div><br></div><div>=A0C</div><div><br><br><div class=3D"gma= il_quote">On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Kannan Goundan <span dir=3D"ltr"= ><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">kannan@cakoose.<wbr>com</a>><= /span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc solid;">Yea= h... it's a bit unfortunate. =A0We may or may not find a way around<br> implementing it twice. =A0Either way, we also have an issue with native<br> code being disallowed.<br> <br> I'm considering adding code generation support to Clearsilver -- just<b= r> something that converts the CSTREE to Python/Java code. =A0The untyped<br> parse tree a little difficult to work with (just not what I'm used to)<= br> but I figure I could plow through it and get a Python prototype in a<br> day or two if it comes to that.<br> <br> Again, not sure if we're gonna go this route or not, I was just<br> wondering if anybody had already dealt with this sort of thing.<br> <br> -- Kannan<br> <div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 21:01, Chris Trimble <<a href=3D"mailto:trimbo@g= mail.com">trimbo@gmail.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br> > No, Clearsilver is implemented in C so you'll have to compile the = native<br> > code for both.<br> > I'm responding mostly because I'm interested in why you have t= o implement<br> > the exact same web page in both Python and Java. =A0What's the req= uirement<br> > that necessitates this? =A0It seems like a maintenance nightmare.<br> > =A0- Chris<br> ><br> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 6:26 PM, cakoose <<a href=3D"mailto:kannan@= cakoose.com">kannan@cakoose.<wbr>com</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> Hello! =A0I need to implement the same dynamic web page in Python = and Java.<br> >> =A0Though the request-handling and data-retrieval code will need t= o be written<br> >> twice, it would be nice to be able to use a shared template. =A0Cl= earsilver<br> >> supports both languages, but from what I can tell, it uses native = code,<br> >> which isn't allowed in my case.<br> >><br> >> Is there a way to use Clearsilver without the native code componen= t?<br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> </p> </div> =20=20=20=20=20 <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStart|**|-~--> <div style=3D"color: #fff; height: 0;">__._,_.___</div> =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20 =20=20=20 <div id=3D"ygrp-actbar" style=3D"clear: both; margin-bottom: 10px; whit= e-space: nowrap; color: #666; padding-top: 15px;"> <div> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe: Clearsilver withou= t native code?" style=3D"margin-right: 0; padding-right: 0;"> Reply to <span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">sender</span></a> | <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]?subject=3DRe: Clearsi= lver without native code?"> Reply to <span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">group</span></a> | <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClearSilver/post;_ylc= =3DX3oDMTJwcTdjM24yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM1NjQxMzcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjgx= OTQyBG1zZ0lkAzEzODcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMjc3OTU4MTQ1?act=3Drepl= y&messageNum=3D1387">Reply <span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">via web post</= span></a> | <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClearSilver/post;_ylc= =3DX3oDMTJldjNoZXJqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM1NjQxMzcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3Mjgx= OTQyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTI3Nzk1ODE0NQ--" style=3D"font-weight:= 700;">Start a New Topic</a> </div> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClearSilver/messag= e/1386;_ylc=3DX3oDMTM0YTd0bnRkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM1NjQxMzcEZ3Jwc3BJZ= AMxNzA3MjgxOTQyBG1zZ0lkAzEzODcEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMjc3OTU4MTQ1= BHRwY0lkAzEzODY-">Messages in this topic</a> (<span style=3D"font-weight: 700;">2</span>) </div>=20 <!------- Start Nav Bar ------> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <div id=3D"ygrp-vital" style=3D"background-color: #e0ecee; font-family: Ver= dana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding: 10px;"> <span id=3D"vithd" style=3D"font-weight: bold; color: #333; text-tran= sform: uppercase; ">Recent Activity:</span> <ul style=3D"list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display: inl= ine;"> <li style=3D"border-right: 1px solid #000; font-weight: 700; di= splay: inline; padding: 0 5px; margin-left: 0;"> <span class=3D"cat"><a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClearSil= ver/members;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJmYmUzZjI4BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM1NjQxMzcEZ3Jw= c3BJZAMxNzA3MjgxOTQyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZtYnJzBHN0aW1lAzEyNzc5NTgxNDU-?o=3D6"= style=3D"text-decoration: none;">New Members</a></span> <span class=3D"ct" style=3D"color: #ff7900;">2</span> </li> </ul> =20=20=20=20 <div style=3D"clear: both; padding-top: 2px; color: #1e66ae;"> <a href=3D"http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ClearSilver;_ylc=3DX3oDMTJlcGo= wa2tpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzM1NjQxMzcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjgxOTQyBHNlYwN2dG= wEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTI3Nzk1ODE0NQ--" style=3D"text-decoration: none;">Vi= sit Your Group</a> </div> </div> <div id=3D"ygrp-mkp" style=3D"border: 1px solid #d8d8d8; clea= r: both; float: left; font-family: Arial; margin: 5px 0 10px 0; padding: 0 = 10px;"> <div id=3D"hd" style=3D"color: #628c2a; font-size: 85%; font-weight: = 700; line-height: 122%; margin: 10px 0;">MARKETPLACE</div> <div id=3D"ads" style=3D"margin-bottom: 10px;"> <div class=3D"ad" style=3D"color: #628C2A; font-family: A= rial; font-weight: 700; padding: 0 0;"> <p><a href=3D"http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=3D15o3eu390/M=3D49306= 4.13983314.14041046.13298430/D=3Dgroups/S=3D1707281942:MKP1/Y=3DYAHOO/EXP= =3D1277965345/L=3D40c641f2-84c8-11df-bb83-cbfdfaf6aa2b/B=3DnDYYL2KImi4-/J= =3D1277958145952857/K=3DzqaXfTrCLUHU9djTc96dWA/A=3D6060255/R=3D0/SIG=3D1194= m4keh/*http://us.toolbar.yahoo.com/?.cpdl=3Dgrpj">Stay on top of your group= activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! 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