Re: refdbc (0.9.7-pre1) getref -t ris losing info?

Doug du Boulay <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.refdb.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Thursday 09 March 2006 17:22, Markus Hoenicka wrote:
> Doug du Boulay <[email protected]> was heard to say:


> >
> > I seem to have lost the part and its title
> > and the author has been shifted from the part, to the publication.
> > My guess was that because <publication> is a container for secondary
> > info, this implies that a publication/author is a book editor rather
> > than the primary book author that I would expect. No?
>
> risx distinguishes three levels of bibliographic information (just like
> librarians do): analytic, monographic, series. The monographic information
> is encoded in the publication element. A publication is something that you
> find as such on the shelves of a library, e.g. a book. If your work is a
> chapter in a book, then you're looking at analytical information (the
> chapter) along with monographic information (the book that contains the
> chapter). A book that appeared as part of a limited series would contain
> series information too. In your example, you'd have to put both the author
> and the book title into the publication element, as you have only
> monographic information available.

Thanks. Its a bit clearer to me now, I hope. If I get it right then
it works like:

libraryinfo     RISX                <entry type="?">s
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
                             JOUR       JFUL      CHAP     BOOK     SERIES    
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
monographic publication  articleinfo journalinfo bookinfo bookinfo bookinfo
analytic       part                  articleinfo chapinfo         chapterinfo
series         set                                                seriesinfo
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

and the <author> element in the <publication> section is 
iether an author or an editor purely dependent on the entry/@type 
atribute right?

But I wonder, citing page numbers
from a book seems to be analytic info, but that goes into the 
monographic/pubinfo slot?

(I'm trying to XSLT map RISX to something else, so want to make sure 
I don't mess up completely)

> > Also for a particular journal citation/ bibliography formatting style
> > that I use (I think it is a Harvard variant), I need 

> >    Marel, J. H., Van Der (2001)...
> >
> > So I'm thinking that author lastname|firstname|middlename|suffix may not
> > be expressive enough to capture this information properly.
> > Or does/can RefDB do some fancy footwork internally with lastname?

> I'm afraid there is no way to do this currently. 

Ok. Just checking.
Thanks Markus.
Doug


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