Re: Correspondence: Coding Postscripts in Multiple Hands?

Elisa Beshero-Bondar <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.tei.general
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Thanks for the helpful suggestions and discussion, Stefan, Peter, and Lou! (And Stefan, thanks hugely for adding that example!) Stefan, your use of <addSpan spanTo=“somewhere” hand="#someone”/> makes sense to me for the much-longer-than-phrase-level material we’re working with, so I may go with that. By far the easier solution, though, for coding and processing, would be to just put @hand on <postScript>. 

Lou, before we read your post on Tuesday, my student and I decided our makeshift solution was to use @resp on postScript, so we were thinking along the same lines there! I’d rather, for processing purposes, use @hand or <handShift/> or something explicitly to do with changing hands. We’re going to be running into this situation pretty frequently in our project, and I suspect it’s common in other projects with correspondence, too—the situation in which a writer finishes a letter, and a second writer in the house seizes the opportunity to write a few lines or a couple of paragraphs in the remaining space on the paper. If anyone has tried alternative encoding to what we’re discussing here, please share! 

I shall open a new ticket requesting @hand on <postScript> and we’ll discuss in Council.

Thanks!
Elisa
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> On Oct 28, 2016, at 7:18 AM, Peter Stadler <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Elisa, hi Stefan,
> 
> @Stefan: thanks for adding the example
> @Elisa: Because  <postscript> is so limited in its content model (and attribute classes) I prefer to use <div>s with @decls or @hand. I really only use <postscript> for „one-liners“. That said, I find @hand on  <postscript> a good idea and second the idea of a feature request.
> 
> Best
> Peter
> 
>> Am 26.10.2016 um 11:55 schrieb Stefan Dumont <[email protected]>:
>> 
>> PS ;-)
>> 
>> I've added the missing encoding of one postscript example from the WeGA
>> in the TEI wiki:
>> 
>> http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/C._M._v._Weber_an_Gottfried_Weber,_Augsburg,_10th_March_1811
>> 
>> and it seems, that the WeGA handles this case with <addSpan> and
>> <div type="writingSession">.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Stefan
>> 
>> Am 25.10.2016 um 18:39 schrieb Elisa Beshero-Bondar:
>>> Dear TEI List,
>>> On the Digital Mitford project's coding of correspondence, we're running
>>> into multiple instances in which two different people are writing
>>> postscripts on a letter. Or rather, a second person comes and dashes off
>>> a quick but multi-paragraph note on a letter after the main writer
>>> (Mitford) has finished writing. We want to code these brief messages
>>> from other hands using either <add hand="#soAndSo"><p>...</p></add> or
>>> with a properly placed <handShift/> element, but we're running into
>>> troubles because these aren't permitted inside a <postScript> element.
>>> Also, we can't put @hand on <postScript>.
>>> 
>>> Okay, we could modify our project schema to permit these elements where
>>> we want them, but we want to follow the recommendations of the
>>> Correspondence SIG. We found this example, which seems just exactly to
>>> capture what we're
>>> doing: http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/C._M._v._Weber_an_Johann_G%C3%A4nsbacher,_Berlin,_29th_February_1812
>>> However, the sample TEI encoding of the text appears to be missing. Any
>>> help here?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Elisa
>>> 
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>>> Elisa Beshero-Bondar, PhD
>>> Director, Center for the Digital Text | Associate Professor of English
>>> University of Pittsburgh at Greensburg | Humanities Division
>>> 150 Finoli Drive
>>> Greensburg, PA  15601  USA
>>> E-mail: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>> Development site: http://newtfire.org <http://newtfire.org/>
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