Re: advantages of TEI

Piotr Bański <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.tei.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
We're talking about this page:

http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/

and the sub-thread began with a bunch of links to project-level 
guidelines. You're not going to find these links on any of the subpages 
of Projects/

So the quick thought was: someone has done the tough job of looking 
through those projects and finding their local guidelines. It might 
(maybe) make sense to keep the results somewhere in a dynamic setting, 
where it can either grow into an even more useful list or.. not grow, 
and in the latter case no one is going to cry about that. The Projects/ 
page, useful for PR purposes perhaps, is not very useful as a quick 
source of local guidelines. (And note that I abstract away from whether 
these local guidelines are good/useful/whathaveyou. That's another 
thing, but whether we end up classifying them as useful or not, and 
maybe even noticing valuable or unwanted tendencies in preparing local 
guidelines, it's rather good to _have_ those guidelines at a distance of 
a single click).

But I'm not sure where to put them at a minimal time investment on my 
part, to make them maximally useful to others. Hence my initial question.

Best,

   P.


On 02/11/16 17:34, Lou Burnard wrote:
> You prefer a single page with 80 links you have to clicketty click to
> check if they're any use to you? Chain son gout...
>
> Sent from my Honor Mobile
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: advantages of TEI
> From: Piotr Bański
> To: Lou Burnard ,[email protected]
> CC:
>
> Hi Lou,
>
> Of course I know the page, and of course I don't think it's very useful
> for this kind of listing. Clickety-click through 80 sub-pages, not me... :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
>    P.
>
> On 02/11/16 14:39, Lou Burnard wrote:
>> There is a tei projects page on the website which is where I would look
>> for this kind of information.
>>
>> Sent from my Honor Mobile
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: advantages of TEI
>> From: Piotr Bański
>> To: [email protected]
>> CC:
>>
>> A quick question to all: where in the TEI wiki structure would you
>> imagine this set of links?
>>
>> @Paul: thanks for sharing! :-)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>    Piotr
>>
>> On 02/11/16 14:33, Magdalena Turska wrote:
>>> Following on Paul's list, such project specific policies could be even
>>> called 'cheatsheets' as in Marjorie
>>> Burkhart's http://marjorie.burghart.online.fr/?q=en/content/tei-critical-apparatus-cheatsheet
>>>
>>> Magdalena
>>>
>>> On 2 November 2016 at 13:18, Paul Broyles <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Eduard,
>>>
>>>     Regarding the question of how flexibility and freedom complicate
>>>     development, many projects develop internal encoding guidelines to
>>>     provide consistency among their texts. Thus if you're developing a
>>>     display system for the output of one particular project, you have a
>>>     much more limited set of possibilities to aim for.
>>>
>>>     These documents can also be useful to provide to encoders who are
>>>     relative TEI novices, as they can help explain how TEI encoding
>>>     works in a more beginner-friendly way than the official documentation.
>>>
>>>     Here are a handful of examples I have handy and have found useful
>>>     (the last is from a project I'm working on, though I had no hand in
>>>     the guidelines):
>>>     http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/resources/pdfs/techspec.pdf
>>>     <http://www.newtonproject.sussex.ac.uk/resources/pdfs/techspec.pdf>
>>>     http://www.cdlib.org/groups/stwg/docs/MS_BPG.pdf
>>>     <http://www.cdlib.org/groups/stwg/docs/MS_BPG.pdf>
>>>     http://www.whitmanarchive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Whitman_Encoding_Guidelines
>>>     <http://www.whitmanarchive.org/mediawiki/index.php/Whitman_Encoding_Guidelines>
>>>     http://piers.iath.virginia.edu/resources/transcriptionalProtocols.html
>>>     <http://piers.iath.virginia.edu/resources/transcriptionalProtocols.html>
>>>
>>>     There are many more examples out there, though unfortunately they
>>>     can be hard to search for as they go under varied names, from
>>>     "Transcriptional Protocols" to "Encoding Guidelines" to "Technical
>>>     Introduction."
>>>
>>>     Paul
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Nov 2, 2016 at 7:56 AM Eduard Drenth
>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>         Dear all,
>>>
>>>
>>>         At the moment we are converting some 8000 corpora (runes, old,
>>>         mid and new frisian, dialects) at the fryske akademy to TEI.
>>>
>>>
>>>         By adopting an international standard we hope to boost doing
>>>         research on top of these data. *Related to this I am interested
>>>         in experiences with:*
>>>
>>>
>>>         1) doing research on TEI material
>>>
>>>         2) disclosure and publication (i.g. web) of TEI material
>>>
>>>
>>>         Experiments with oxGarage http://www.tei-c.org/oxgarage/ shows
>>>         minimal, disappointing results.
>>>
>>>
>>>         I did not yet try https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets
>>>         <https://github.com/TEIC/Stylesheets>, perhaps this offers
>>>         better results.
>>>
>>>
>>>         *I wonder how much effort / development (i.a. xslt, xquery) the
>>>         two aspects (publicaton and doing research) will take.*
>>>
>>>
>>>         TEI offers flexibility and freedom (i.g. <span type="lemma"
>>>         target="w1 w2"> instead of <lemma target="w1 w2">) that
>>>         complicates tool development. How big of a problem is this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Eduard Drenth, Software Architekt
>>>
>>>
>>>         [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>     --
>>>     Paul A. Broyles, Ph.D.
>>>     CLIR Postdoctoral Fellow in Data Curation for Medieval Studies
>>>     North Carolina State University
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