Re: internal encoding guidelines, cheatsheets, and listings of TEI projects

Piotr Bański <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.text.tei.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Let me try a tiny bit of analysis.

Web page:
* hopelessly static in display (forms, no way to cross-search, see 
facets, tag clouds or the like)
* hopelessly static in terms of content (updateable by mailing the 
webmaster)
* hopelessly flat structure (well it's a list)
* there is a nice submission form
** with some restrictions on e.g. the subject field (which imposes some 
cross-classification, even though we can't sadly grab at it when 
requesting the data)
* date of the last modification recorded explicitly
* update by e-mail (= involving a third party, subject to their time 
constraints)

Wiki:
* I don't think wiki is the proper medium for this, because it is also 
static in terms of presentation. Not as hopelessly as the web page, but 
still.
* Data submission is arguably potentially more messy (no hard 
restrictions) and arguably slightly more difficult (you have to request 
a wiki account)
* the category system can be used for various cross-classifications but 
it's unconstrained, and it still involves clicking a lot and waiting for 
the new page to open.
* date of the last modification (and its nature! whether it was a typo 
fix or content change) available within two clicks (from the history and 
diffs)
* direct and dynamic update of the information is a snap, reverting bad 
edits is a snap as well

Half-measures that could be taken:
* One could imagine automated conversion from the current web page to 
the wiki, connected with the setting up of an underlying categorization 
(trivial, because they can be part of the direct output of the 
conversion process).
* Update would be easier (because anyone logged could perform it).
* Display would still be static, although slightly more friendly 
(cross-classified)
* Data input could be a mess. Ideally, the existing form could be used 
for it, with a script converting the data into a wiki article that the 
submitter could then paste into a new wiki page (or... send it to the 
list, sigh)
* a little advantage in all this could be a potential increase in the 
number of users of the wiki, which can translate into an enhancement of 
its overall informational value

Project lists are good PR and can be helpful for users interested in 
re-using the experience of others. I think the TEI has outgrown the 
stage where such lists are necessary to legitimize a project. They are 
still useful for users, though. Wiki is a half measure, but overall it 
may improve access to this information and improve its content.


The above was a quick job that presents a subjective view.

Best,

   Piotr




On 03/11/16 20:32, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> ... but I now see that earlier today, Serge Heiden helpfully created a
> category and template for projects for the TEI wiki:
>
> http://wiki.tei-c.org/index.php/Category:Projects
>
> May this serve as the beginning of a revamped inventory of TEI projects,
> perhaps even replacing the one on the TEI website!
>
> Kevin
>
> On 11/3/16 2:15 PM, Kevin Hawkins wrote:
>> On the topic of moving the list of TEI projects (
>> http://www.tei-c.org/Activities/Projects/ ) into the wiki, those of us
>> who have administered the website and wiki have discussed this idea on
>> and off over the years.  My response to why I've put putting it off is
>> essentially the same as what I wrote in 2010:
>>
>> https://listserv.brown.edu/archives/cgi-bin/wa?A2=TEI-L;ed2a925c.1003
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